1/505 xss 09-03 15:38:41-09-03 15:38:56 We have been tracking the top hacker elite frog team for a y...
2/505 n 09-03 15:38:42-09-03 15:38:43 Just won first place in the international AI safety testing ...
3/505 n 09-03 15:38:45-09-03 15:38:46 Actually, the big bull frog and his team have broken many re...
4/505 de 09-03 15:40:35-09-03 15:40:50 They are the first Asian team to win a championship in the w...
5/505 de 09-03 15:38:43-09-03 15:38:52 And has won the championship for three consecutive years, fi...
6/505 de 09-03 15:41:28-09-03 15:41:39 They are also the first Asian team to remotely crack Apple's...
7/505 hp 09-03 15:38:47-09-03 15:38:54 But this first time is different from all the previous times...
8/505 n 09-03 15:38:50-09-03 15:38:56 Because the "Safe" competition is considered to be the large...
9/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:06-09-03 15:40:10 All the major AI companies are competing in this arena.
10/505 bg 09-03 15:48:40-09-03 15:48:49 And the results of these competitions directly affect the sa...
11/505 aaa 09-03 15:38:46-09-03 15:38:50 This time,
12/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:31-09-03 15:40:35 The Big Bull Frog team successfully used their own AI securi...
13/505 09-03 15:38:52-09-03 15:39:01 deep collaborates with leading AI research institutions in S...
14/505 hp 09-03 15:38:59-09-03 15:39:01 With the domestic OpenAI large model as a foundation, do gav...
15/505 bg 09-03 15:38:53-09-03 15:39:01 Go straight to the top.
16/505 aaa 09-03 15:38:56-09-03 15:39:00 Then we won the global first place in Cyber Dream.
17/505 de 09-03 15:38:57-09-03 15:39:01 Well,
18/505 09-03 15:39:06-09-03 15:39:11 In fact, it has exceeded some of the world's top AI giants.
19/505 xss 09-03 15:39:01-09-03 15:39:19 What we're really interested in here is the open-source GPT,
20/505 n 09-03 15:39:00-09-03 15:39:03 Well,
21/505 aaa 09-03 15:39:03-09-03 15:39:11 And there's an pick of the cloud missiles, this package.
22/505 bg 09-03 15:39:04-09-03 15:39:11 Including Microsoft,
23/505 hp 09-03 15:39:07-09-03 15:39:11 Also Google,
24/505 de 09-03 15:39:10-09-03 15:39:19 Then there are some large domestic companies,
25/505 n 09-03 15:39:11-09-03 15:39:19 They all participated in this.
26/505 bg 09-03 15:39:14-09-03 15:39:19 Okay,
27/505 09-03 15:39:15-09-03 15:39:19 Because this is a relatively authoritative list.
28/505 aaa 09-03 15:39:17-09-03 15:39:19 Well,
29/505 hp 09-03 15:39:19-09-03 15:39:30 I'm just going to tell you about it,
30/505 09-03 15:39:25-09-03 15:39:30 Because it is definitely well-known in the industry,
31/505 bg 09-03 15:39:22-09-03 15:39:30 Very authoritative,
32/505 aaa 09-03 15:39:28-09-03 15:39:30 The public may not be aware of this.
33/505 n 09-03 15:39:24-09-03 15:39:30 Well,
34/505 de 09-03 15:39:29-09-03 15:39:40 What is the cyber gene test?
35/505 xss 09-03 15:39:30-09-03 15:39:40 Actually, it's a u c berkeley.
36/505 bg 09-03 15:39:33-09-03 15:39:40 A university in the United States,
37/505 hp 09-03 15:39:37-09-03 15:39:40 Then a laboratory made their leader, whose name was Dang Son...
38/505 09-03 15:39:34-09-03 15:39:40 Well,
39/505 n 09-03 15:39:39-09-03 15:39:40 This is a very famous Chinese security expert.
40/505 bg 09-03 15:39:43-09-03 15:39:51 He was actually one of our consultants for the previous few ...
41/505 aaa 09-03 15:39:40-09-03 15:39:51 Oh,
42/505 09-03 15:39:44-09-03 15:39:51 He is very knowledgeable about network security and hacking.
43/505 de 09-03 15:39:46-09-03 15:39:51 So they created a test set,
44/505 hp 09-03 15:39:48-09-03 15:39:51 There are some vulnerabilities in real projects.
45/505 n 09-03 15:39:49-09-03 15:39:51 Can the current AI large models independently find it?
46/505 xss 09-03 15:39:51-09-03 15:40:02 Therefore, cyber G strictly speaking,
47/505 bg 09-03 15:39:52-09-03 15:40:02 The accurate expression should be a test list of vulnerabili...
48/505 aaa 09-03 15:39:57-09-03 15:40:02 Therefore, as you mentioned earlier, he was using some real ...
49/505 09-03 15:39:55-09-03 15:40:02 It's very close to real-life scenarios.
50/505 n 09-03 15:39:58-09-03 15:40:02 It doesn't seem like it was a competition, maybe just for fu...
51/505 hp 09-03 15:39:59-09-03 15:40:02 Or, or no, he is actually some real vulnerabilities.
52/505 09-03 15:40:03-09-03 15:40:10 So, what do you think of our small team?
53/505 de 09-03 15:40:01-09-03 15:40:10 Well,
54/505 n 09-03 15:40:08-09-03 15:40:10 How can I achieve such a breakthrough in the field of cybers...
55/505 bg 09-03 15:40:05-09-03 15:40:10 Why?
56/505 hp 09-03 15:40:09-09-03 15:40:10 I think it's probably just luck.
57/505 xss 09-03 15:40:10-09-03 15:40:20 Because we didn't really pay much attention to this matter a...
58/505 bg 09-03 15:40:12-09-03 15:40:20 Well,
59/505 09-03 15:40:14-09-03 15:40:20 There is only one national-level AI laboratory in Shanghai.
60/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:16-09-03 15:40:20 I saw that our team wrote an article,
61/505 hp 09-03 15:40:17-09-03 15:40:20 To catch up with the US in this area,
62/505 n 09-03 15:40:18-09-03 15:40:20 So he contacted us to make this list.
63/505 09-03 15:41:14-09-03 15:41:20 Well, of course, the thing that attracted me was...
64/505 09-03 15:40:22-09-03 15:40:35 The main point is that we haven't used any of the leading Am...
65/505 de 09-03 15:40:20-09-03 15:40:29 Therefore, we have no chance to see.
66/505 bg 09-03 15:40:21-09-03 15:40:29 However, they will participate in the test for this ranking.
67/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:25-09-03 15:40:29 We saw their scores were eighty-three percent,
68/505 hp 09-03 15:40:27-09-03 15:40:29 So, 88.83 points?
69/505 n 09-03 15:40:26-09-03 15:40:29 Well,
70/505 xss 09-03 15:40:29-09-03 15:40:35 We also want to try it.
71/505 hp 09-03 15:40:33-09-03 15:40:35 Do we really have the ability to catch up with him?
72/505 bg 09-03 15:40:30-09-03 15:40:35 So, I did this:
73/505 n 09-03 15:40:34-09-03 15:40:35 Well,
74/505 bg 09-03 15:40:37-09-03 15:40:44 Without that channel,
75/505 09-03 15:40:38-09-03 15:40:44 No direct channels.
76/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:40-09-03 15:40:44 Okay,
77/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:10-09-03 15:42:16 So, we actually haven't put too much effort into it.
78/505 hp 09-03 15:40:42-09-03 15:40:44 Because we are developing our own products,
79/505 n 09-03 15:40:41-09-03 15:40:44 So, this test was purely a matter of chance.
80/505 bg 09-03 15:42:37-09-03 15:42:51 We have some national-level laboratories in Shanghai, and we...
81/505 xss 09-03 15:40:44-09-03 15:40:50 Then, we should talk about...
82/505 bg 09-03 15:40:45-09-03 15:40:50 I got a score of 96 on the first try.
83/505 09-03 15:40:46-09-03 15:40:50 Ninety-six percent.
84/505 hp 09-03 15:40:49-09-03 15:40:50 Of course, this result will eventually be reviewed by them.
85/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:48-09-03 15:40:50 In early August,
86/505 n 09-03 15:40:50-09-03 15:41:00 We have obtained the third place globally and first in China...
87/505 bg 09-03 15:40:53-09-03 15:41:00 Recently, we used the latest domestic large model.
88/505 aaa 09-03 15:40:55-09-03 15:41:00 Then the score should be around 94%.
89/505 de 09-03 15:40:57-09-03 15:41:00 Therefore, it is the first in the world.
90/505 09-03 15:40:56-09-03 15:41:00 Oh,
91/505 hp 09-03 15:40:59-09-03 15:41:00 What kind of model are we using this time?
92/505 xss 09-03 15:41:00-09-03 15:41:11 Actually, the model selection was made by a i lab.
93/505 bg 09-03 15:41:03-09-03 15:41:11 Their choice was this, a domestic product from Qum.
94/505 hp 09-03 15:41:09-09-03 15:41:11 The first time we played against the third-ranked team in th...
95/505 n 09-03 15:41:05-09-03 15:41:11 The first place was achieved with a score of 5.3,
96/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:06-09-03 15:41:11 However, in reality, the core harness used is ours.
97/505 de 09-03 15:41:11-09-03 15:41:20 Is it right?
98/505 09-03 15:41:07-09-03 15:41:11 Okay,
99/505 bg 09-03 15:41:13-09-03 15:41:20 Our such a product,
100/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:15-09-03 15:41:20 Or, one of our core ideas is this.
101/505 bg 09-03 15:41:21-09-03 15:41:28 Why can it surpass so many top global AI giants' products?
102/505 n 09-03 15:41:17-09-03 15:41:20 My experience is that,
103/505 hp 09-03 15:41:18-09-03 15:41:20 We are sharing our human hacking experience without reservat...
104/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:01-09-03 15:42:06 Then integrate it into our a.
105/505 xss 09-03 15:41:20-09-03 15:41:28 Well,
106/505 09-03 15:41:22-09-03 15:41:28 Then, I think the most important thing here is not just succ...
107/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:24-09-03 15:41:28 We also told them about our failures.
108/505 hp 09-03 15:41:25-09-03 15:41:28 Because this vulnerability discovery and any kind of technic...
109/505 n 09-03 15:41:26-09-03 15:41:28 Minimize the number of missed cases.
110/505 bg 09-03 15:41:29-09-03 15:41:39 Minimize errors as much as possible.
111/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:35-09-03 15:41:39 I think that after we share our successful experiences with ...
112/505 09-03 15:41:32-09-03 15:41:39 Minimize leakage,
113/505 n 09-03 15:41:37-09-03 15:41:39 Tell them some of your failed experiences.
114/505 hp 09-03 15:41:36-09-03 15:41:39 Minimize misrepresentation.
115/505 xss 09-03 15:41:39-09-03 15:41:48 In this regard, we may have played a role.
116/505 aaa 09-03 15:52:25-09-03 15:52:36 Do you think this is the most important point?
117/505 hp 09-03 15:42:13-09-03 15:42:16 Should come to CCTV,
118/505 bg 09-03 15:41:40-09-03 15:41:48 Now, you can still see the ranking.
119/505 09-03 15:41:42-09-03 15:41:48 GPT-3 of openAI is about 85 points.
120/505 n 09-03 15:41:43-09-03 15:41:48 Android's peak is at 83%.
121/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:44-09-03 15:41:48 Then, if a large Chinese model directly participates in the ...
122/505 hp 09-03 15:41:47-09-03 15:41:48 It might be around 7 or 8 minutes.
123/505 de 09-03 15:41:48-09-03 15:41:56 Because we have added this honeypot,
124/505 09-03 15:41:51-09-03 15:41:56 After telling the human hacker all of his experience and wis...
125/505 bg 09-03 15:41:50-09-03 15:41:56 Um,
126/505 n 09-03 15:41:54-09-03 15:41:56 Achieve a score of 90 or higher.
127/505 bg 09-03 15:41:58-09-03 15:42:06 The lessons we've learned are that, yes, it is possible for ...
128/505 hp 09-03 15:41:52-09-03 15:41:56 Well,
129/505 aaa 09-03 15:41:55-09-03 15:41:56 But it's not worth bragging about.
130/505 xss 09-03 15:41:56-09-03 15:42:06 Because there is actually another list,
131/505 09-03 15:41:59-09-03 15:42:05 Few people go to the gym.
132/505 de 09-03 15:42:03-09-03 15:42:06 I think one of the most important points in this test is,
133/505 n 09-03 15:42:02-09-03 15:42:06 Actually, it told many people.
134/505 hp 09-03 15:42:05-09-03 15:42:06 The most fundamental thing in network security is actually v...
135/505 09-03 15:42:08-09-03 15:42:16 Why is the essence of network security a confrontation betwe...
136/505 bg 09-03 15:42:09-09-03 15:42:16 However, all attacks require the existence of vulnerabilitie...
137/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:01-09-03 15:43:08 So, in fact, there are two lists.
138/505 bg 09-03 15:42:19-09-03 15:42:25 One is a ranking of vulnerability discovery capabilities, Cy...
139/505 n 09-03 15:42:12-09-03 15:42:16 Explore gyms based on rankings.
140/505 de 09-03 15:42:14-09-03 15:42:25 That's actually very difficult on that list.
141/505 xss 09-03 15:42:16-09-03 15:42:25 Well,
142/505 bg 09-03 15:43:41-09-03 15:43:47 Then there weren't many Chinese teams participating.
143/505 09-03 15:42:20-09-03 15:42:25 Actually, that ranking isn't the top one in the world.
144/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:21-09-03 15:42:25 We are actually the fourth in the world.
145/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:47-09-03 15:42:52 Fourth globally.
146/505 bg 09-03 15:42:28-09-03 15:42:35 However, we must admit that our scores are still quite far f...
147/505 n 09-03 15:42:25-09-03 15:42:34 When exploiting a vulnerability,
148/505 hp 09-03 15:42:24-09-03 15:42:25 When exploiting vulnerabilities,
149/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:31-09-03 15:42:34 GPT 5.5 is the first one in line.
150/505 09-03 15:42:29-09-03 15:42:34 Then the second is me,
151/505 09-03 15:42:39-09-03 15:42:43 Of course, there is a significant gap between the first and ...
152/505 hp 09-03 15:42:32-09-03 15:42:35 His score was 293.
153/505 de 09-03 15:42:33-09-03 15:42:43 I remember that the second place was actually only 157.
154/505 xss 09-03 15:42:34-09-03 15:42:43 Our score is 100,
155/505 aaa 09-03 15:42:40-09-03 15:42:43 However, this score may still need to be verified.
156/505 n 09-03 15:42:42-09-03 15:42:43 So, you're saying that the key is from discovering vulnerabi...
157/505 hp 09-03 15:42:43-09-03 15:42:51 The exploit gene is on the list of vulnerabilities.
158/505 n 09-03 15:42:50-09-03 15:42:52 Are we already very advanced in China?
159/505 09-03 15:44:09-09-03 15:44:14 Actually, I don't think that competing for the top position ...
160/505 09-03 15:42:46-09-03 15:42:52 Compared to the United States.
161/505 de 09-03 15:42:51-09-03 15:43:01 I think that although in terms of vulnerability discovery,
162/505 xss 09-03 15:42:52-09-03 15:43:08 We have the support of domestic large models.
163/505 bg 09-03 15:42:54-09-03 15:43:01 Then we can get some good names.
164/505 hp 09-03 15:42:55-09-03 15:43:01 For example, the first one is...
165/505 hp 09-03 15:43:47-09-03 15:43:55 However, on the vulnerability ranking list,
166/505 09-03 15:42:56-09-03 15:43:01 It's not very high.
167/505 n 09-03 15:42:59-09-03 15:43:01 Strictly speaking, but
168/505 bg 09-03 15:43:02-09-03 15:43:08 As for the civilian field,
169/505 09-03 15:43:03-09-03 15:43:13 Well, actually we only need to focus on finding vulnerabilit...
170/505 n 09-03 15:43:05-09-03 15:43:08 Only a few key or special departments,
171/505 de 09-03 15:43:06-09-03 15:43:13 This requires the ability to exploit vulnerabilities.
172/505 hp 09-03 15:43:08-09-03 15:43:13 Because that's about turning vulnerabilities into attack cap...
173/505 hp 09-03 15:44:10-09-03 15:44:14 We don't need it in the civilian sector.
174/505 bg 09-03 15:53:53-09-03 15:54:03 Therefore, not many people pay attention to this matter.
175/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:10-09-03 15:43:13 But I think that's a problem to be solved.
176/505 xss 09-03 15:43:13-09-03 15:43:31 That's the most important aspect of testing a network securi...
177/505 bg 09-03 15:43:09-09-03 15:43:13 Well,
178/505 n 09-03 15:43:12-09-03 15:43:13 Okay,
179/505 09-03 15:43:15-09-03 15:43:22 Because, if we truly enter into a state of defense and attac...
180/505 hp 09-03 15:43:16-09-03 15:43:22 You may not attack, but you still have a chance.
181/505 bg 09-03 15:43:17-09-03 15:43:22 But you need to know how they might attack.
182/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:19-09-03 15:43:22 Okay,
183/505 n 09-03 15:43:20-09-03 15:43:22 I don't know if my understanding is correct.
184/505 de 09-03 15:43:22-09-03 15:43:31 Okay,
185/505 bg 09-03 15:43:24-09-03 15:43:31 Therefore, I think we should maintain a humble attitude.
186/505 09-03 15:43:26-09-03 15:43:31 We know our strengths,
187/505 n 09-03 15:43:29-09-03 15:43:31 We also need to know where our shortcomings are.
188/505 hp 09-03 15:43:30-09-03 15:43:31 Will you continue to work in this direction?
189/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:31-09-03 15:43:40 Here you go,
190/505 n 09-03 15:43:36-09-03 15:43:40 Of course, I think our team should have some dissatisfaction...
191/505 bg 09-03 15:43:33-09-03 15:43:40 But this thing can't be done alone.
192/505 09-03 15:43:34-09-03 15:43:40 In order to achieve this,
193/505 xss 09-03 15:43:38-09-03 15:43:55 I mean, for example, this time we're trying to rank.
194/505 hp 09-03 15:43:37-09-03 15:43:40 That's actually three aspects of effort.
195/505 09-03 15:43:43-09-03 15:43:47 That's definitely going to be the Chinese large language mod...
196/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:44-09-03 15:43:47 Its own basic abilities.
197/505 de 09-03 15:43:40-09-03 15:43:47 Second,
198/505 n 09-03 15:43:45-09-03 15:43:47 We have contributed our human hacker harnessnes agent,
199/505 bg 09-03 15:43:48-09-03 15:43:55 Then there's also our computing power support.
200/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:50-09-03 15:44:53 Regarding your suggestion of creating a ranking list,
201/505 09-03 15:43:49-09-03 15:43:55 Actually, the cost of computing power is also quite signific...
202/505 de 09-03 15:43:53-09-03 15:44:06 Of course, these things don't seem to be the most important ...
203/505 n 09-03 15:43:51-09-03 15:43:55 Well,
204/505 aaa 09-03 15:43:52-09-03 15:43:55 How much will it cost?
205/505 de 09-03 15:44:58-09-03 15:45:07 If you're just looking to get on the list once,
206/505 bg 09-03 15:43:56-09-03 15:44:06 It might cost around 100,000 or more.
207/505 hp 09-03 15:43:58-09-03 15:44:06 Well,
208/505 09-03 15:43:59-09-03 15:44:06 So, now you have to consider this ten thousand as well?
209/505 n 09-03 15:44:02-09-03 15:44:06 Or, to put it another way, that's good enough.
210/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:03-09-03 15:44:06 Okay, okay, okay.
211/505 n 09-03 15:44:13-09-03 15:44:14 But I actually didn't say that. What attracted me most was u...
212/505 xss 09-03 15:44:04-09-03 15:44:24 Actually, it's not about the ranking.
213/505 bg 09-03 15:44:07-09-03 15:44:14 Well,
214/505 bg 09-03 15:44:17-09-03 15:44:24 Well, we haven't optimized or adjusted anything for this.
215/505 de 09-03 15:44:14-09-03 15:44:24 I think this is the most authentic.
216/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:12-09-03 15:44:14 Okay,
217/505 09-03 15:45:37-09-03 15:45:46 Just put the agent up and use it.
218/505 hp 09-03 15:45:02-09-03 15:45:07 Okay, okay,
219/505 09-03 15:44:18-09-03 15:44:24 It's not that the research is thorough.
220/505 n 09-03 15:44:20-09-03 15:44:24 You said that you think so,
221/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:21-09-03 15:44:24 The founder, you are familiar with him.
222/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:28-09-03 15:44:32 Have you ever thought that people might think you're deeply ...
223/505 hp 09-03 15:44:22-09-03 15:44:32 Then, they consciously choose to engage in the kind of cheat...
224/505 bg 09-03 15:44:25-09-03 15:44:32 I think someone will have this question.
225/505 09-03 15:44:27-09-03 15:44:32 Well,
226/505 n 09-03 15:44:29-09-03 15:44:32 Here's the situation:
227/505 xss 09-03 15:44:31-09-03 15:44:42 I am particularly opposed to one thing,
228/505 de 09-03 15:44:32-09-03 15:44:41 It is that we Chinese are particularly good at these things.
229/505 09-03 15:44:35-09-03 15:44:41 Have you seen the hacking competition that we organized ours...
230/505 bg 09-03 15:44:34-09-03 15:44:41 I have been talking about this for over a decade.
231/505 aaa 09-03 15:55:47-09-03 15:55:53 Well, don't make statements that are certain.
232/505 hp 09-03 15:44:37-09-03 15:44:39 You are like this test,
233/505 n 09-03 15:44:38-09-03 15:44:41 Essentially, it is essentially still an answer.
234/505 aaa 09-03 15:44:39-09-03 15:44:42 That's me, I have over a thousand test machines.
235/505 hp 09-03 15:44:42-09-03 15:44:50 He must have a flaw.
236/505 bg 09-03 15:44:43-09-03 15:44:52 It depends on whether you can find it.
237/505 09-03 15:44:46-09-03 15:44:52 This is not the kind of hacking I want to see.
238/505 de 09-03 15:44:48-09-03 15:44:52 I hope that,
239/505 n 09-03 15:44:49-09-03 15:44:52 I hope it's a real environment,
240/505 xss 09-03 15:44:52-09-03 15:45:00 I don't know if he has moved.
241/505 hp 09-03 15:44:53-09-03 15:45:00 I'm really drawn to this open-ended possibility.
242/505 n 09-03 15:44:56-09-03 15:45:00 Is there such a thing now?
243/505 bg 09-03 15:44:54-09-03 15:45:00 Only in the simulation environment,
244/505 bg 09-03 15:45:57-09-03 15:46:07 Only in real-world environments,
245/505 09-03 15:44:57-09-03 15:45:07 So this is our last time to vote,
246/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:00-09-03 15:45:07 We don't plan to continue doing this.
247/505 bg 09-03 15:45:01-09-03 15:45:07 Real vulnerabilities,
248/505 n 09-03 15:45:04-09-03 15:45:07 The discovery and utilization of something may be more appea...
249/505 xss 09-03 15:45:05-09-03 15:45:21 So, ranking might just be an incidental thing for you.
250/505 bg 09-03 15:45:08-09-03 15:45:15 I think knowing your own strengths and weaknesses, as well a...
251/505 09-03 15:45:17-09-03 15:45:21 Well,
252/505 09-03 15:45:09-09-03 15:45:15 Actually, it's because we have been following the trend.
253/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:11-09-03 15:45:15 Because I also know that we have conducted several interview...
254/505 09-03 15:46:38-09-03 15:46:44 Until this year, you have almost dedicated all your energy t...
255/505 n 09-03 15:45:12-09-03 15:45:15 Well,
256/505 hp 09-03 15:45:13-09-03 15:45:15 Is this really the foundation for our ranking?
257/505 de 09-03 15:45:15-09-03 15:45:21 Because we are really doing this research.
258/505 bg 09-03 15:45:16-09-03 15:45:21 Why do you have so many businesses, almost too much?
259/505 n 09-03 15:45:19-09-03 15:45:21 Have the short-term businesses stopped?
260/505 bg 09-03 15:45:23-09-03 15:45:31 I think we must accept a fact,
261/505 hp 09-03 15:45:21-09-03 15:45:31 The development speed of AI may far exceed that of the inter...
262/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:20-09-03 15:45:21 So this year, we came up with a plan.
263/505 09-03 15:45:24-09-03 15:45:31 If one day AI can greatly surpass humans,
264/505 n 09-03 15:45:54-09-03 15:45:56 What should we do?
265/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:26-09-03 15:45:31 In fact, we have been embracing AI for a long time.
266/505 n 09-03 15:45:27-09-03 15:45:31 Because I am an AI pessimist,
267/505 de 09-03 15:45:28-09-03 15:45:39 Because I think the possibility of him replacing humans is v...
268/505 xss 09-03 15:45:31-09-03 15:45:46 Therefore, the possibility of hackers is also very high.
269/505 bg 09-03 15:45:34-09-03 15:45:39 In terms of the speed of AI development this year,
270/505 hp 09-03 15:45:35-09-03 15:45:39 Our feelings are deeper than they were last year.
271/505 n 09-03 15:45:38-09-03 15:45:39 Therefore, this year we can almost see with our own eyes tha...
272/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:39-09-03 15:45:46 Since we believe that this event has a high probability of o...
273/505 bg 09-03 15:45:41-09-03 15:45:46 Then let's fully embrace AI.
274/505 hp 09-03 15:45:42-09-03 15:45:46 So, we did one thing.
275/505 n 09-03 15:46:22-09-03 15:46:24 Who are our past customers?
276/505 n 09-03 15:45:43-09-03 15:45:46 These giants,
277/505 de 09-03 15:45:46-09-03 15:45:56 Huawei,
278/505 bg 09-03 15:45:49-09-03 15:45:56 Xiaomi,
279/505 09-03 15:45:50-09-03 15:45:56 oppo,
280/505 aaa 09-03 15:45:52-09-03 15:45:56 vivo,
281/505 hp 09-03 15:45:53-09-03 15:45:56 DJI
282/505 xss 09-03 15:45:56-09-03 15:46:07 Alipay,
283/505 09-03 15:46:00-09-03 15:46:07 Bytes,
284/505 hp 09-03 15:46:01-09-03 15:46:07 WeChat,
285/505 n 09-03 15:46:02-09-03 15:46:07 These are our customers.
286/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:04-09-03 15:46:07 Our past capabilities have been serving these large corporat...
287/505 hp 09-03 15:47:19-09-03 15:47:29 If a and i can develop to a certain extent,
288/505 de 09-03 15:46:05-09-03 15:46:15 For example, being able to replace a portion of human work.
289/505 09-03 15:47:06-09-03 15:47:12 That is a kind of, for us.
290/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:11-09-03 15:46:15 That could be, for example, freeing me.
291/505 bg 09-03 15:46:08-09-03 15:46:15 Liberate us,
292/505 de 09-03 15:56:45-09-03 15:56:50 Save our manpower.
293/505 09-03 15:46:09-09-03 15:46:15 Then,
294/505 n 09-03 15:46:12-09-03 15:46:15 We may be able to help more non-giants in these companies im...
295/505 hp 09-03 15:46:13-09-03 15:46:15 In fact, the United States has already done so.
296/505 xss 09-03 15:46:15-09-03 15:46:24 Well,
297/505 bg 09-03 15:46:16-09-03 15:46:24 Therefore, from this perspective,
298/505 09-03 15:46:17-09-03 15:46:24 I think we also need to fully embrace AI, so that it can rep...
299/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:19-09-03 15:46:24 Then apply this capability to more industries.
300/505 hp 09-03 15:46:20-09-03 15:46:24 Well,
301/505 09-03 15:46:27-09-03 15:46:34 So, what do you think about the product you're working on no...
302/505 de 09-03 15:46:24-09-03 15:46:34 What does this mean for ordinary people or small and medium-...
303/505 bg 09-03 15:46:26-09-03 15:46:34 If we define our team as a relatively top-tier hacking group...
304/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:30-09-03 15:46:34 In the past, our human resources could only serve giants.
305/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:39-09-03 15:46:44 Well,
306/505 hp 09-03 15:46:31-09-03 15:46:34 We don't have enough manpower to serve.
307/505 n 09-03 15:46:32-09-03 15:46:34 For example, we are similar to Huawei or WeChat.
308/505 n 09-03 15:46:41-09-03 15:46:44 Or, for those DJI products outside of that, to address their...
309/505 xss 09-03 15:46:34-09-03 15:46:44 Their safety brain or something,
310/505 bg 09-03 15:46:35-09-03 15:46:44 We don't have enough resources to serve more industries.
311/505 hp 09-03 15:46:37-09-03 15:46:44 Well,
312/505 de 09-03 15:46:44-09-03 15:46:52 After having AI,
313/505 bg 09-03 15:46:45-09-03 15:46:52 I think we can empower our abilities to AI.
314/505 09-03 15:46:46-09-03 15:46:52 Let AI solve more industrial security problems.
315/505 n 09-03 15:46:48-09-03 15:46:52 For example, ordinary people.
316/505 09-03 15:48:32-09-03 15:48:39 Or, in other words, even ordinary small and medium-sized ent...
317/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:49-09-03 15:46:52 Therefore, we have also reduced our human costs through AI.
318/505 n 09-03 15:47:21-09-03 15:47:32 Well,
319/505 hp 09-03 15:46:51-09-03 15:46:52 And the efficiency was also improved.
320/505 xss 09-03 15:46:52-09-03 15:47:01 That being the case,
321/505 09-03 15:46:55-09-03 15:47:01 More industries may be able to use a safety.
322/505 aaa 09-03 15:46:57-09-03 15:47:01 Therefore, our idea is to enable more Chinese innovations wi...
323/505 bg 09-03 15:46:53-09-03 15:47:01 Too small,
324/505 hp 09-03 15:47:00-09-03 15:47:01 The team also deserves to have top-notch security capabiliti...
325/505 n 09-03 15:46:59-09-03 15:47:01 However, the process may still be quite difficult.
326/505 de 09-03 15:47:01-09-03 15:47:12 Is it?
327/505 bg 09-03 15:47:04-09-03 15:47:12 This is equivalent to needing to invest in research and deve...
328/505 bg 09-03 15:56:52-09-03 15:57:00 Well,
329/505 aaa 09-03 15:47:07-09-03 15:47:12 So, you feel that your income is not good this year.
330/505 n 09-03 15:47:08-09-03 15:47:12 But there's nothing to say.
331/505 hp 09-03 15:47:11-09-03 15:47:12 Okay,
332/505 xss 09-03 15:47:12-09-03 15:47:28 You're probably right,
333/505 de 09-03 15:48:49-09-03 15:49:02 Because they have all experienced it.
334/505 bg 09-03 15:47:15-09-03 15:47:25 Doing this long-term thing,
335/505 09-03 15:47:17-09-03 15:47:31 We have put all our energy into it,
336/505 aaa 09-03 15:47:35-09-03 15:47:46 Actually, it's about giving our abilities to those who curre...
337/505 aaa 09-03 15:47:18-09-03 15:47:26 No income.
338/505 de 09-03 15:47:23-09-03 15:47:33 Will you be anxious?
339/505 bg 09-03 15:47:33-09-03 15:47:46 Anxiety,
340/505 xss 09-03 15:47:36-09-03 15:47:46 But luckily, you mentioned your health check report two days...
341/505 hp 09-03 15:47:39-09-03 15:47:46 The new medical report has come out.
342/505 hp 09-03 15:47:52-09-03 15:47:57 I'm getting old,
343/505 09-03 15:47:41-09-03 15:47:46 There are only a few red items.
344/505 n 09-03 15:48:07-09-03 15:48:17 Okay,
345/505 n 09-03 15:47:44-09-03 15:47:46 It wasn't like this last year.
346/505 de 09-03 15:47:46-09-03 15:47:57 Last year there were only a few items,
347/505 bg 09-03 15:47:47-09-03 15:47:57 I don't know what happened this year.
348/505 aaa 09-03 15:47:48-09-03 15:47:57 Hair also fell out.
349/505 09-03 15:47:50-09-03 15:47:57 Gray hair,
350/505 n 09-03 15:47:55-09-03 15:47:57 Then all the indicators increased.
351/505 xss 09-03 15:47:56-09-03 15:48:07 Not three highs or five highs,
352/505 09-03 15:47:59-09-03 15:48:07 It could be 7 or 8.
353/505 bg 09-03 15:47:58-09-03 15:48:07 When you are planning a longer-term,
354/505 hp 09-03 15:59:16-09-03 15:59:22 Or when it's a larger, more ultimate task.
355/505 aaa 09-03 15:49:11-09-03 15:49:14 When you face a more ultimate challenge,
356/505 hp 09-03 15:48:03-09-03 15:48:07 You, you will have to endure the short-term.
357/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:01-09-03 15:48:07 No revenue,
358/505 de 09-03 15:48:06-09-03 15:48:17 There are still people who don't care,
359/505 bg 09-03 15:48:09-09-03 15:48:17 This is all expected,
360/505 09-03 15:48:10-09-03 15:48:17 I think it's important to recognize that,
361/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:11-09-03 15:48:17 It takes courage to do things without considering the cost.
362/505 hp 09-03 15:48:14-09-03 15:48:17 First, you need to invest.
363/505 aaa 09-03 15:50:03-09-03 15:50:11 So now it's all your own investment.
364/505 bg 09-03 15:48:18-09-03 15:48:28 It doesn't matter if you invest.
365/505 xss 09-03 15:48:17-09-03 15:48:28 Do you have a plan for this time?
366/505 n 09-03 15:48:20-09-03 15:48:28 I think even if this schedule is extended,
367/505 09-03 15:48:22-09-03 15:48:28 I don't allow it because this era doesn't permit it.
368/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:21-09-03 15:48:28 Because AI is developing too fast,
369/505 de 09-03 15:48:28-09-03 15:48:39 Therefore, we can only do faster and better.
370/505 hp 09-03 15:48:25-09-03 15:48:28 It's not economic pressure.
371/505 bg 09-03 15:48:29-09-03 15:48:39 I think it's because of the pressure to develop.
372/505 n 09-03 15:48:30-09-03 15:48:39 Well,
373/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:36-09-03 15:48:39 We have money in our account.
374/505 hp 09-03 15:48:33-09-03 15:48:39 Oh,
375/505 n 09-03 15:48:41-09-03 15:48:49 I don't think you have money,
376/505 xss 09-03 15:48:39-09-03 15:48:49 I'm broke,
377/505 hp 09-03 15:49:20-09-03 15:49:25 Can I stay at home?
378/505 hp 09-03 15:48:45-09-03 15:48:49 Is this grade important to you?
379/505 09-03 15:48:43-09-03 15:48:49 Well,
380/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:48-09-03 15:48:49 This result is of some importance.
381/505 bg 09-03 15:48:51-09-03 15:49:02 Because our goal is to catch up with the most advanced secur...
382/505 n 09-03 15:48:52-09-03 15:49:02 Now, the grades have given us at least a certain level of co...
383/505 09-03 15:48:56-09-03 15:49:02 We might be able to catch up.
384/505 hp 09-03 15:48:53-09-03 15:49:02 Even more than the list itself.
385/505 09-03 15:50:15-09-03 15:50:22 What do you think is the most important thing?
386/505 aaa 09-03 15:48:59-09-03 15:49:02 The first thing we need to know is where the United States s...
387/505 bg 09-03 15:49:03-09-03 15:49:14 The second thing is that I think it's very good.
388/505 xss 09-03 15:49:02-09-03 15:49:14 For our safety agent,
389/505 n 09-03 15:49:04-09-03 15:49:14 There are many different understandings of the security indu...
390/505 09-03 15:49:06-09-03 15:49:14 But in fact, I think that the most authoritative network sec...
391/505 hp 09-03 15:49:08-09-03 15:49:14 Actually, before this list was released,
392/505 de 09-03 15:49:14-09-03 15:49:25 Many people actually don't know where the most core ability ...
393/505 bg 09-03 15:49:15-09-03 15:49:25 We are very clear.
394/505 n 09-03 15:49:17-09-03 15:49:25 Because network security is a confrontation between public a...
395/505 09-03 15:49:18-09-03 15:49:25 But, the vulnerability is precisely what all attacks rely on...
396/505 xss 09-03 15:49:25-09-03 15:49:35 Therefore, this is one of the most important abilities.
397/505 aaa 09-03 15:49:23-09-03 15:49:25 He defined this as a capability of network security.
398/505 bg 09-03 15:49:26-09-03 15:49:35 It's actually a very good science popularization.
399/505 aaa 09-03 15:51:59-09-03 15:52:04 Let's also make it known to more people that we have always ...
400/505 n 09-03 15:49:27-09-03 15:49:35 This is worth it otherwise.
401/505 de 09-03 15:51:06-09-03 15:51:16 I don't know why you are posting about the rebate loophole.
402/505 09-03 15:49:29-09-03 15:49:35 This is actually a very important aspect of network security...
403/505 aaa 09-03 15:49:31-09-03 15:49:35 Instead, you said that...
404/505 hp 09-03 15:49:35-09-03 15:49:48 Actually, why was your small team able to win first place?
405/505 de 09-03 15:49:34-09-03 15:49:35 Well,
406/505 bg 09-03 15:49:37-09-03 15:49:48 This is also due to the accumulation of all these years.
407/505 n 09-03 15:49:38-09-03 15:49:48 Is it right?
408/505 aaa 09-03 15:49:40-09-03 15:49:48 It was in this field of vulnerability discovery that...
409/505 09-03 15:49:42-09-03 15:49:48 This is the most essential thing I see in him.
410/505 de 09-03 15:49:45-09-03 15:49:48 Well,
411/505 09-03 15:49:52-09-03 15:49:58 The first one I think is very simple, that our people are re...
412/505 xss 09-03 15:49:48-09-03 15:49:58 Without passion,
413/505 n 09-03 15:49:50-09-03 15:49:58 It's hard to be the best in an industry.
414/505 bg 09-03 15:49:49-09-03 15:49:58 The second thing is soil.
415/505 hp 09-03 15:49:56-09-03 15:49:58 I'm here to talk about our company's development, and I want...
416/505 aaa 09-03 15:49:53-09-03 15:49:58 I have always been helping people grow without limits.
417/505 de 09-03 15:49:58-09-03 15:50:11 You can do as well as you want.
418/505 bg 09-03 15:50:00-09-03 15:50:11 I am in my company,
419/505 xss 09-03 15:50:09-09-03 15:50:22 Basically, you don't need to spend too much time on other th...
420/505 09-03 15:50:01-09-03 15:50:11 You only have one thing,
421/505 hp 09-03 15:50:04-09-03 15:50:11 Just do what you can.
422/505 n 09-03 15:50:06-09-03 15:50:11 I think, if someone likes you,
423/505 bg 09-03 15:50:12-09-03 15:50:22 Then he put all his energy into it.
424/505 n 09-03 15:52:51-09-03 15:52:58 We are not much smarter than others, or any other way.
425/505 n 09-03 15:50:14-09-03 15:50:22 There are no disturbances here.
426/505 bg 09-03 15:57:04-09-03 15:57:11 Do what you like,
427/505 aaa 09-03 15:50:16-09-03 15:50:22 Go to the most powerful people.
428/505 de 09-03 15:50:19-09-03 15:50:22 The way to catch up is like this,
429/505 hp 09-03 15:50:20-09-03 15:50:33 The result is a natural consequence.
430/505 bg 09-03 15:50:23-09-03 15:50:33 There have been some before,
431/505 09-03 15:50:24-09-03 15:50:34 Tell me, you are bragging.
432/505 aaa 09-03 15:50:53-09-03 15:50:58 Well,
433/505 n 09-03 15:50:26-09-03 15:50:33 With this score,
434/505 aaa 09-03 15:50:27-09-03 15:50:34 You got the first place in this gym competition, right?
435/505 de 09-03 15:50:30-09-03 15:50:34 Okay,
436/505 xss 09-03 15:50:31-09-03 15:50:45 For those who might have had doubts about it,
437/505 bg 09-03 15:50:35-09-03 15:50:45 Or even people who are negative.
438/505 hp 09-03 15:50:37-09-03 15:50:45 I think this is a good response.
439/505 n 09-03 15:50:38-09-03 15:50:45 I might be getting old,
440/505 09-03 15:50:40-09-03 15:50:45 I might accept one thing,
441/505 aaa 09-03 15:50:42-09-03 15:50:45 I'm not doing this for the audience.
442/505 de 09-03 15:50:45-09-03 15:50:58 Actually, I'm just trying to get this result for myself.
443/505 09-03 15:50:48-09-03 15:50:58 It doesn't affect me at all.
444/505 bg 09-03 15:50:46-09-03 15:50:58 Honestly, there are always people who use sarcasm.
445/505 hp 09-03 15:50:49-09-03 15:50:58 You really think it's important,
446/505 n 09-03 15:50:50-09-03 15:50:58 I think it's really affecting their mood.
447/505 xss 09-03 15:50:56-09-03 15:51:16 Externally, you need to coexist with the needs of others and...
448/505 09-03 15:51:00-09-03 15:51:10 That might be the time when we are not leading.
449/505 bg 09-03 15:50:59-09-03 15:51:08 I will always hear this sound.
450/505 hp 09-03 15:51:02-09-03 15:51:11 When we run far enough,
451/505 aaa 09-03 15:51:04-09-03 15:51:13 Maybe you won't hear it anymore.
452/505 xss 09-03 15:51:44-09-03 15:51:53 Honestly,
453/505 n 09-03 15:51:07-09-03 15:51:16 I heard that the Big Bull Frog team has won cyber.
454/505 bg 09-03 15:51:17-09-03 15:51:28 The news of the global first gym,
455/505 hp 09-03 15:51:20-09-03 15:51:28 Very complex inside.
456/505 09-03 15:51:19-09-03 15:51:28 This year,
457/505 bg 09-03 15:52:37-09-03 15:52:45 Close-up tracking of the bullfrog team,
458/505 aaa 09-03 15:51:22-09-03 15:51:28 Record their ability to constantly challenge limits.
459/505 n 09-03 15:51:23-09-03 15:51:28 Effort and moments of glory,
460/505 de 09-03 15:51:25-09-03 15:51:38 I also saw them persevering through their passion,
461/505 bg 09-03 15:51:30-09-03 15:51:38 The frustrations I have experienced along the way,
462/505 aaa 09-03 15:56:53-09-03 15:57:00 Simmering,
463/505 xss 09-03 15:51:28-09-03 15:51:38 Fragile,
464/505 09-03 15:51:31-09-03 15:51:39 The external indifference that anxiety endures,
465/505 aaa 09-03 15:51:32-09-03 15:51:38 I don't understand.
466/505 n 09-03 15:51:34-09-03 15:51:39 Even questioning.
467/505 09-03 15:51:49-09-03 15:52:02 I don't like the documentary about free solo climbing by Dan...
468/505 hp 09-03 15:51:36-09-03 15:51:44 Because the mountain is there,
469/505 bg 09-03 15:51:41-09-03 15:51:50 You choose to pursue excellence,
470/505 de 09-03 15:51:42-09-03 15:51:50 You are destined to face fear.
471/505 aaa 09-03 15:51:45-09-03 15:51:53 Actually, the Great Year team just achieved profitability la...
472/505 n 09-03 15:51:46-09-03 15:51:53 However, as of today,
473/505 hp 09-03 15:51:52-09-03 15:52:02 Their revenue was almost zero.
474/505 bg 09-03 15:51:56-09-03 15:52:04 But the physical examination report of the big bull frog has...
475/505 de 09-03 15:51:57-09-03 15:52:04 Because they voluntarily abandoned a large number of busines...
476/505 n 09-03 15:53:34-09-03 15:53:41 Invest all of your energy into AI safety research.
477/505 hp 09-03 15:52:05-09-03 15:52:12 Confronting the disruptive challenges brought by AI,
478/505 xss 09-03 15:52:00-09-03 15:52:12 Will AI replace human hackers, or will human hackers?
479/505 n 09-03 15:52:03-09-03 15:52:12 If a i were to lose control one day,
480/505 09-03 15:52:07-09-03 15:52:12 Can anyone stand up and protect us ordinary people?
481/505 aaa 09-03 15:53:25-09-03 15:53:30 A small, independent research institute owned by a private c...
482/505 bg 09-03 15:52:08-09-03 15:52:14 We are about to tackle a fundamental challenge facing humani...
483/505 aaa 09-03 15:52:10-09-03 15:52:12 The pressures from both inside and outside are beyond imagin...
484/505 de 09-03 15:52:11-09-03 15:52:25 Actually, I feel very similar.
485/505 09-03 15:52:18-09-03 15:52:25 In the second half of last year, I chose to do independent c...
486/505 n 09-03 15:52:15-09-03 15:52:25 Formed a team of like-minded people.
487/505 hp 09-03 15:52:19-09-03 15:52:25 Because what I truly want to do is genuine recording.
488/505 xss 09-03 15:52:21-09-03 15:52:25 In this era, real...
489/505 n 09-03 15:56:54-09-03 15:57:00 Complex,
490/505 bg 09-03 15:52:22-09-03 15:52:25 Interesting,
491/505 bg 09-03 15:52:26-09-03 15:52:36 Powerful people,
492/505 n 09-03 15:52:29-09-03 15:52:36 We also chose a slow and difficult path.
493/505 09-03 15:52:30-09-03 15:52:36 Stick to doing in-depth original content.
494/505 de 09-03 15:52:32-09-03 15:52:36 As of now,
495/505 hp 09-03 15:52:36-09-03 15:52:45 We all put in our own effort.
496/505 xss 09-03 15:52:33-09-03 15:52:45 No revenue.
497/505 n 09-03 15:52:40-09-03 15:52:45 Romano Lavranos once said, "In John Chrysostom's writings......
498/505 aaa 09-03 15:52:41-09-03 15:52:47 True heroes are not without moments of weakness and timidity...
499/505 09-03 15:52:42-09-03 15:52:47 Never been defeated by humility and cowardice.
500/505 de 09-03 15:52:44-09-03 15:52:58 Maybe we can't become world-saving heroes,
501/505 n 09-03 15:53:49-09-03 15:53:52 However, everyone who bravely faces their inner demons can b...
502/505 hp 09-03 15:52:48-09-03 15:52:58 If you want to learn more about the story of Big Bull and hi...
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