1/141 0.03-1.11 aaa 今天聊一下阿成啊,09-01 07:54:40-09-01 07:54:41Let's talk about Ah Cheng today.
2/141 1.29-3.21 lx 我是刚刚看完他的书啊,09-01 07:54:41-09-01 07:54:48I just finished reading his book.
3/141 3.33-3.57 xss 阿成,09-01 07:54:42-09-01 07:55:31Ah Cheng,
4/141 3.75-6.03 aaa 我估计文艺青年应该都知道阿成写小说的啊,09-01 07:54:42-09-01 07:54:45I guess that literary young people should all know about Ah-Cheng's novels.
5/141 6.15-8.01 hp 他的最经典的三王啊,09-01 07:54:43-09-01 07:54:46His three most classic kings,
6/141 8.37-9.81 n 齐王是王海子王嗯,09-01 07:54:44-09-01 07:54:46King, King Hai Zi Wang,
7/141 10.05-12.03 n 应该是他最经典的三段小说写的,09-01 07:54:45-09-01 07:54:47It should be the three classic short stories he wrote,
8/141 12.09-16.71 aaa 是根据自己上山下乡知青下乡的这样一个历史啊历史大背景去写的。09-01 07:54:46-09-01 07:54:49It's written based on the historical background of my own experience as a young volunteer in rural areas.
9/141 17.43-20.07 de 那么阿成他呃最初是去内蒙,09-01 07:54:46-09-01 07:55:17So, Ah Cheng initially went to Inner Mongolia.
10/141 20.37-21.51 xss 后来是去了云南,09-01 07:59:48-09-01 08:00:49Then I went to Yunnan.
11/141 21.57-22.59 hp 反正都是在滨江地区。09-01 07:54:48-09-01 07:54:51Anyway, they are all in the Binjiang area.
12/141 22.65-22.71 n 啊,09-01 07:54:49-09-01 07:54:49Oh,
13/141 22.89-23.85 jd 那么三王的故事啊,09-01 07:54:49-09-01 07:54:51So, the story of the Three Kings...
14/141 23.91-26.49 n 他说根据他的云南的那样一段经历,09-01 07:54:50-09-01 07:54:51He said, based on his experience in Yunnan,
15/141 26.67-27.39 de 作为一个背景的,09-01 07:54:51-09-01 07:55:05As a background,
16/141 27.57-29.73 lx 其实知青下乡这段历史啊,09-01 07:54:51-09-01 07:55:03Actually, the history of young people going to rural areas,
17/141 30.22-32.32 bg 我们当然有个大的基调的青春无悔啊,09-01 07:54:52-09-01 07:55:42Of course, we have a big theme of youth and no regrets.
18/141 32.5-33.64 n 非常宏大的一个叙述。09-01 07:54:53-09-01 07:54:54A very grand narrative.
19/141 33.82-36.16 aaa 但是具体到个体的命运,09-01 07:54:53-09-01 07:54:55However, when it comes to the fate of individuals,
20/141 36.52-38.38 jd 他们到底毁还是不悔啊,09-01 07:54:54-09-01 07:54:56What are they doing, destroying or regretting?
21/141 38.68-39.88 n 不大好说不大好说啊。09-01 07:54:55-09-01 07:54:57I don't know, I really don't.
22/141 40.24-41.86 hp 呃当然可以肯定的是,09-01 07:54:55-09-01 07:54:58Sure, of course.
23/141 42.4-44.26 n 很多人在这个过程中经历了什么呢?09-01 07:54:56-09-01 07:54:58What did many people experience during this process?
24/141 44.32-45.7 aaa 经历了教育的断层啊,09-01 07:54:57-09-01 07:54:57Experienced an educational gap,
25/141 45.94-47.8 jd 个人经个个人教育的断层,09-01 07:54:57-09-01 07:54:59Individual educational gaps,
26/141 48.04-49.66 n 也是集体教育的断层啊。09-01 07:54:58-09-01 07:55:00It's also a break in collective education.
27/141 50.32-54.22 aaa 但是对于好多后来从事文学创作的人来讲啊,09-01 07:54:58-09-01 07:55:01However, for many people who later engaged in literary creation,
28/141 54.82-56.5 n 知青的这段经历确实非常宝贵,09-01 07:54:59-09-01 07:55:01The experiences of these young intellectuals are indeed very valuable.
29/141 56.62-59.08 hp 成了他们后来非常重要的一个写作素材啊。09-01 07:55:00-09-01 07:55:04This became a very important writing material for them later.
30/141 59.26-61.98 jd 你比方说王小好播王小博也在云南待光,09-01 07:55:01-09-01 07:55:03You compare Wang Xiao to Wang Bo, both of whom were stationed in Yunnan.
31/141 62.22-64.08 n 他应该是待了两年时间不太长。09-01 07:55:01-09-01 07:55:04He should have been there for about two years, which is not very long.
32/141 64.38-65.4 aaa 他写了黄金时代,09-01 07:55:02-09-01 07:55:03He wrote about the golden age.
33/141 65.58-66.12 n 非常幽默,09-01 07:55:03-09-01 07:55:04Very funny,
34/141 66.3-67.08 jd 非常细谑啊,09-01 07:55:04-09-01 07:55:04Very cute,
35/141 67.66-70.78 aaa 我这里面把这个性描写写成是中英伟大的爱情,09-01 07:55:04-09-01 07:55:07I've rewritten the sexual content to be about a great love between Zhong and Wei.
36/141 71.32-73.02 lx 非常非常个性的一个表达。09-01 07:55:05-09-01 07:55:12A very, very personal expression.
37/141 73.33-74.65 hp 那么阿成的文字不一样,09-01 07:55:06-09-01 07:55:09So, the writing of Acheng is different.
38/141 74.77-77.04 n 阿成的文字我读完之后感觉特别干净啊。09-01 07:55:06-09-01 07:55:10After reading the text written by A, I felt that it was very clean.
39/141 77.22-78.12 n 当然我光这么说,09-01 07:55:07-09-01 07:55:09Of course, I just said that.
40/141 78.48-80.7 jd 你还是理解不了这个干净到底什么意思啊,09-01 07:55:08-09-01 07:55:10You still can't understand what "clean" means,
41/141 80.76-81.3 de 你得自己去读。09-01 07:55:08-09-01 07:55:29You have to read it yourself.
42/141 82.06-84.04 aaa 那么这个齐王他讲了个什么故事啊,09-01 07:55:09-09-01 07:55:11So, what story did King Qi tell?
43/141 84.28-86.26 hp 讲了就是一个夏江知青啊,09-01 07:55:10-09-01 07:55:13The story is about a young man from the Xia River,
44/141 86.44-87.34 n 夏棋非常厉害啊,09-01 07:55:10-09-01 07:55:12Xiaqi is very good at chess.
45/141 87.64-89.32 jd 一个人能同时和九个人一块儿下棋,09-01 07:55:11-09-01 07:55:13One person can play chess with nine people at the same time.
46/141 89.65-90.4 n 而且下盲棋啊,09-01 07:55:12-09-01 07:55:13And then, playing blind chess...
47/141 90.58-94.09 aaa 这期望那么数王讲什么术王讲一批知青啊,09-01 07:55:12-09-01 07:55:16I'm wondering what the king is going to say, and if he will talk about some specific topics or events.
48/141 94.67-95.51 n 下乡去砍树。09-01 07:55:13-09-01 07:55:14Go to the countryside and chop wood.
49/141 95.87-95.93 lx 哎,09-01 07:55:14-09-01 07:55:17Oh,
50/141 96.29-97.67 n 一个生产队的一个非常憨厚,09-01 07:55:14-09-01 07:55:16A very honest and kind member of a collective farm,
51/141 97.79-100.8 jd 老师的一个汉子就不让他们砍一棵非常粗的树,09-01 07:55:15-09-01 07:55:17A teacher forbade his students from cutting down a very large tree.
52/141 101.04-102.24 hp 说这个树的成树精了,09-01 07:55:16-09-01 07:55:19I heard that this tree has become a spirit.
53/141 102.36-103.34 n 不能砍啊,09-01 07:55:16-09-01 07:55:17Cannot be cut.
54/141 103.46-106.23 n 大家知青啊彻底的唯物主义啊,09-01 07:55:18-09-01 07:55:19Everyone knows that the old generation is completely materialistic.
55/141 106.41-107.79 de 不相信这一套还是把它砍了,09-01 07:55:18-09-01 07:56:07I don't believe this, so I'm going to cut it off.
56/141 108.3-110.34 jd 结果这个汉子就郁郁寡欢死了。09-01 07:55:19-09-01 07:55:21As a result, this man died of depression.
57/141 110.46-110.52 n 哎,09-01 07:55:20-09-01 07:55:20Oh,
58/141 110.7-113.75 lx 这个树王就是写这样一个小人物的,09-01 07:55:20-09-01 07:55:34This is a story about a small character, a king of trees.
59/141 113.93-114.83 aaa 写那个汉字的啊。09-01 07:55:21-09-01 07:55:22Write that word.
60/141 115.47-117.39 de 那么孩子网他讲了一个什么故事,09-01 08:00:23-09-01 08:00:31What story did the child tell?
61/141 117.57-119.07 hp 讲的是又是知青啊,09-01 07:55:22-09-01 07:55:27It's about the old days of being a Red Guard again.
62/141 119.37-123.93 n 下乡从这个生产队呢调到附近的一个初中啊去教学生语文。09-01 07:55:23-09-01 07:55:26I was transferred from this collective farm to a nearby junior high school to teach Chinese.
63/141 124.41-124.47 n 哎,09-01 07:55:24-09-01 07:55:24Oh,
64/141 124.77-126.39 jd 他这个知青啊,09-01 07:55:24-09-01 07:55:26He was a young peasant worker.
65/141 126.45-129.21 aaa 这是不按照教材的统一的那样一个规范去讲。09-01 07:55:25-09-01 07:55:27This is not a standardized lecture based on the textbook.
66/141 129.7-130.9 n 他按照自己的想法去教,09-01 07:55:26-09-01 07:55:27He taught according to his own ideas.
67/141 131.38-134.5 jd 结果这些学生啊识字的速度就很快啊,09-01 07:55:26-09-01 07:55:28As a result, these students have a very fast reading speed.
68/141 134.62-137.18 n 这个效果就非常好打成一片啊,09-01 07:55:27-09-01 07:55:30This effect is really great, it's like a harmonious blend.
69/141 137.3-138.14 hp 所以叫孩子王嘛,09-01 07:55:28-09-01 07:55:32So, that's why they call him the kid king.
70/141 138.32-139.57 aaa 就是这个寓意啊。09-01 07:55:29-09-01 07:55:30That's the meaning.
71/141 139.81-142.45 n 那么后来上面主管教育的干部就下来啊,09-01 07:55:29-09-01 07:55:31Then, the officials in charge of education came down from above.
72/141 142.93-146.11 jd 以教育理念不符的名义把它就解聘了啊,09-01 07:55:30-09-01 07:55:32They fired him under the guise of not adhering to the educational philosophy.
73/141 146.23-147.55 de 让他重新回到了生产队,09-01 07:55:30-09-01 07:55:52He was sent back to the production team.
74/141 147.98-148.73 aaa 就干农活去吧。09-01 07:55:31-09-01 07:55:32Go do farm work.
75/141 148.85-148.91 n 啊,09-01 07:55:32-09-01 07:55:32Oh,
76/141 149.09-151.97 n 那么这就是三个中篇的故事啊,09-01 07:55:33-09-01 07:55:34So, these are three short stories.
77/141 153.2-154.34 xss 当然我就这么讲的话,09-01 07:55:33-09-01 07:57:13Of course, I'm just saying that.
78/141 154.46-156.68 hp 大家还是不能理解阿成的文字的。09-01 07:55:34-09-01 07:55:38Everyone still can't understand Ah Cheng's writing.
79/141 156.86-157.16 jd 好啊,09-01 07:55:35-09-01 07:55:36Great,
80/141 157.52-158.6 aaa 你必须得自己去看。09-01 07:55:35-09-01 07:55:37You have to go and see for yourself.
81/141 159.51-162.63 n 那么我看完阿成的这三篇小说之后,09-01 07:55:36-09-01 07:55:39After I finished reading these three stories by A-Cheng,
82/141 162.69-164.54 n 我就顺带看了一下这本书。09-01 07:55:37-09-01 07:55:39I also casually glanced at this book.
83/141 164.96-165.02 lx 呃,09-01 07:55:37-09-01 07:55:41Um,
84/141 165.32-166.46 jd 八十年代访谈录啊,09-01 07:55:38-09-01 07:55:40Interview recording from the 1980s,
85/141 166.76-171.08 aaa 扎建英在二零零五啊是二零零六年啊做了一系列访谈啊,09-01 07:55:39-09-01 07:55:42In 2005, Zha Jian-ying conducted a series of interviews.
86/141 171.26-172.16 hp 然后这个访谈啊,09-01 07:55:39-09-01 07:55:42Then this interview,
87/141 173.05-174.19 n 大陆也有删解版,09-01 07:55:40-09-01 07:55:42There are also censored versions in mainland China.
88/141 174.49-175.93 n 但是我看的是完整版的啊,09-01 07:55:41-09-01 07:55:42But I watched the complete version,
89/141 176.23-177.49 jd 我看的是完整版的啊。09-01 07:55:41-09-01 07:55:43I watched the full version.
90/141 178.36-178.42 lx 哦,09-01 07:55:42-09-01 07:55:46Oh,
91/141 178.6-181.84 hp 张建英的访谈是当时在零五零六年的时候,09-01 07:55:43-09-01 07:55:47Zhang Jian-ying's interview was conducted in 2006.
92/141 181.9-183.4 aaa 因为他的女儿非常的小啊,09-01 07:55:43-09-01 07:55:45Because his daughter is very young,
93/141 183.52-184.9 n 她不方便全国各地的跑,09-01 07:55:44-09-01 07:55:46She can't travel around the country.
94/141 185.02-186.46 n 她就集中在北京啊,09-01 07:55:45-09-01 07:55:46She is based in Beijing.
95/141 186.64-189.19 bg 把北京的知识分子给凑到一块儿啊,09-01 07:55:45-09-01 07:56:28Gather the intellectuals of Beijing together,
96/141 189.31-191.17 jd 就聊了一下七八十年代的经历。09-01 07:55:46-09-01 07:55:49Let's chat about our experiences in the 1970s and 1980s.
97/141 191.35-191.95 lx 八十年代啊,09-01 07:55:47-09-01 07:55:52Eighties,
98/141 192.62-194.0 n 其中第一位就是阿成。09-01 07:55:48-09-01 07:55:50The first one is Ah Cheng.
99/141 194.24-194.3 n 哎,09-01 07:55:49-09-01 07:55:50Oh,
100/141 194.54-196.82 hp 阿成在这个访谈中说了一个很有意思的观点啊,09-01 07:55:49-09-01 07:55:54In this interview, Ah Cheng said a very interesting point.
101/141 196.94-200.57 jd 他说我们虽然说八十年代啊是中国的知识,09-01 07:55:50-09-01 07:55:54He said that although we were talking about the 1980s, it was Chinese knowledge.
102/141 200.81-203.39 n 经历了一个知识分子的一个思想启蒙的一个年代。09-01 07:55:51-09-01 07:55:53A year of intellectual awakening for a scholar.
103/141 203.51-203.57 n 啊,09-01 07:55:51-09-01 07:55:52Oh,
104/141 203.75-208.01 aaa 但其实这个启蒙啊在七十年代就酝酿的非常明显了。09-01 07:55:52-09-01 07:55:55But in fact, this enlightenment was very obvious that it had been brewing since the 1970s.
105/141 208.29-208.35 de 哎,09-01 07:55:53-09-01 07:56:07Oh,
106/141 208.53-210.03 lx 为什么七十年代就在酝酿呢?09-01 07:55:53-09-01 07:56:25Why was it brewing in the 1970s?
107/141 210.72-212.88 n 因为七十年的上山下乡这个历史背景,09-01 07:55:54-09-01 07:55:58Due to the historical background of "Upward and Downward" in 1970,
108/141 213.54-215.76 n 好多知识青年被送到了边缘地区,09-01 07:55:55-09-01 07:55:58Many young people with knowledge were sent to remote areas.
109/141 216.5-217.94 hp 边远的边缘地区。09-01 07:55:55-09-01 07:55:58Remote area.
110/141 218.12-220.22 jd 而这个边缘地区它就有一个好处啊,09-01 07:55:56-09-01 07:55:58And this border region has a benefit,
111/141 220.4-222.92 aaa 你的思想文学层面的东西啊,09-01 07:55:57-09-01 07:55:58Your intellectual and literary side,
112/141 223.1-225.92 jd 上面权力的一一时半会儿就干预不了你了。09-01 08:00:58-09-01 08:00:59You can't be intervened in this way.
113/141 226.24-226.3 hp 哎,09-01 07:55:58-09-01 07:56:00Oh,
114/141 226.6-227.38 jd 你在乡村,09-01 07:55:59-09-01 07:56:00You are in the countryside,
115/141 227.68-228.219 n 你在边疆,09-01 07:56:00-09-01 07:56:01You are in the border region,
116/141 228.4-231.04 aaa 你们可以肆意的啊去构思诗歌啊,09-01 07:56:00-09-01 07:56:02You can freely come up with poems,
117/141 231.6-233.34 n 呃尤尤其七十年代啊,09-01 07:56:01-09-01 07:56:03Well, especially in the 1970s...
118/141 233.46-237.37 jd 上上上面的忙着分配权利呢啊那么他举了一个例子,09-01 07:56:02-09-01 07:56:04He was busy allocating rights, and then he gave an example.
119/141 237.49-240.25 hp 就白洋淀的那批青年诗人搞的地下诗歌啊,09-01 07:56:02-09-01 07:56:07Regarding the group of young poets from Baiyangdian who were involved in underground poetry,
120/141 240.67-242.29 n 七十年代就非常有生命力了。09-01 07:56:03-09-01 07:56:05The 1970s were very vibrant.
121/141 242.74-245.08 aaa 我印象中有一本书啊,09-01 07:56:04-09-01 07:56:05I remember a book,
122/141 245.26-246.94 n 就讲的那个年代的地下诗歌。09-01 07:56:04-09-01 07:56:06About the underground poetry of that era.
123/141 247.06-249.25 jd 这个书名好像叫圣殿的沉沦啊,09-01 07:56:05-09-01 07:56:07The title seems to be "The Fall of the Temple".
124/141 249.37-251.95 aaa 圣殿的沉沦现在几乎买不到了。09-01 07:56:06-09-01 07:56:07The Temple of the Sun is now almost impossible to buy.
125/141 252.07-253.09 n 我自己也是很想买,09-01 07:56:06-09-01 07:56:08I also really want to buy it.
126/141 253.21-254.77 n 但是买不到啊。09-01 07:56:07-09-01 07:56:09But I can't buy it.
127/141 254.89-256.39 jd 我不知道大家有没有渠道啊,09-01 07:56:08-09-01 07:56:09I don't know if anyone has a way to...
128/141 256.63-258.67 hp 我不接受这个这个复印本的啊,09-01 07:56:08-09-01 07:56:11I don't accept this copy.
129/141 258.79-260.89 de 我想想找一个原版的去读一读啊。09-01 07:56:09-09-01 07:56:34I'm looking for an original version to read.
130/141 261.48-261.54 de 好,09-01 07:56:10-09-01 07:56:23Okay,
131/141 262.13-263.84 aaa 今天就是简单聊一下阿成啊,09-01 07:56:10-09-01 07:56:12Today, let's just talk about Ah Cheng.
132/141 264.02-265.7 n 非我说他的文字非常干净,09-01 07:56:11-09-01 07:56:13I said his writing was very clean.
133/141 265.94-266.6 n 非常干净啊。09-01 07:56:12-09-01 07:56:13Very clean.
134/141 266.9-267.92 jd 如果要读阿成,09-01 07:56:12-09-01 07:56:14If you want to read about Ah Cheng,
135/141 268.1-269.96 hp 那么首选还是看他的三王,09-01 07:56:13-09-01 07:56:17So, the first choice is to look at his three kings.
136/141 270.08-272.25 aaa 就齐王术王和孩子王啊,09-01 07:56:14-09-01 07:56:15Regarding the King of Qi and the Prince,
137/141 272.43-273.09 n 选哪本呢?09-01 07:56:14-09-01 07:56:16Which one to choose?
138/141 273.51-276.2 n 林理响国的啊理想国的最新版本。09-01 07:56:15-09-01 07:56:17The latest version of Lin Li's ideal country.
139/141 276.32-277.46 jd 我是刚刚看完啊,09-01 07:56:16-09-01 07:56:17I just finished watching it.
140/141 277.7-280.74 aaa 就这是三网理想国的阿成啊。09-01 07:56:16-09-01 07:56:18This is the ideal country of three networks.
141/141 281.33-281.39 n 好。09-01 07:56:17-09-01 07:56:18Okay.