1/258 0.15-5.01 n 当今时代中国互联网对死者为大的解构是不是坏事，09-07 19:58:22-09-07 19:58:27Is it a bad thing that the internet in today's China is breaking down the traditional concept of death?
2/258 5.31-6.27 bg 是这么一回事啊，09-07 19:58:23-09-07 19:58:56Here's the deal,
3/258 6.93-8.43 hp 那么这个事我们怎么说呢？09-07 19:58:26-09-07 19:58:30So, how do we say this?
4/258 9.21-11.67 aaa 我首先来呃讲一下吧，09-07 19:58:27-09-07 19:58:30I'd like to start by talking about...
5/258 11.91-12.99 n 这边讲顾晨啊，09-07 19:58:27-09-07 19:58:30Here's about Gu Chen.
6/258 13.23-17.01 n 反方讲顾晨说顾晨因为死者为大呢就被神化了。09-07 19:58:28-09-07 19:58:33The opposing side said that Gu Chen was deified because he had done something great for the deceased.
7/258 17.55-17.61 hp 呃，09-07 19:58:30-09-07 19:58:33Um,
8/258 18.09-21.81 n 正方讲张雪峰啊说张雪峰因为死者为大呢，09-07 19:58:31-09-07 19:58:34The other side said that Zhang Xuefeng was because the deceased was a big person.
9/258 22.29-24.69 aaa 就那个受到了很大的冲击啊，09-07 19:58:32-09-07 19:58:34That really shocked me.
10/258 24.87-26.19 hp 死以后被人玩梗。09-07 19:58:34-09-07 19:58:37After death, he was mocked.
11/258 26.97-27.03 n 呃，09-07 19:58:35-09-07 19:58:35Um,
12/258 27.63-28.83 aaa 我是顾晨的粉丝，09-07 19:58:35-09-07 19:58:38I am a fan of Gu Chen.
13/258 29.13-30.21 n 我是张雪峰的朋友，09-07 19:58:36-09-07 19:58:38I am Zhang Xuefeng's friend,
14/258 31.05-32.189 n 所以我就非常尴尬，09-07 19:58:37-09-07 19:58:38So I was very embarrassed.
15/258 32.49-33.63 hp 我跟雪峰关系非常好。09-07 19:58:39-09-07 19:58:42I have a very good relationship with Snow Peak.
16/258 34.35-37.41 n 其实我对互联网上玩张雪峰的梗，09-07 19:58:40-09-07 19:58:43Actually, I'm interested in the internet memes about Zhang Xuefeng.
17/258 37.59-39.21 aaa 没有感到太大的伤害。09-07 19:58:40-09-07 19:58:44I didn't feel too much pain.
18/258 40.29-41.67 n 我觉得很多对雪峰的梗，09-07 19:58:41-09-07 19:58:43I think many of the jokes about Snow Peak,
19/258 41.85-42.69 de 虽然即便恶毒，09-07 19:58:42-09-07 19:59:11Even though it is evil,
20/258 43.23-44.61 de 还颇有雪峰的精神，09-07 19:58:42-09-07 19:59:21It also has the spirit of snow mountain.
21/258 44.97-46.95 hp 说真的就是我觉得吃雪糕这个事呢，09-07 19:58:43-09-07 19:58:47Honestly, I think eating ice cream is a matter of...
22/258 49.05-54.21 n 如果雪峰在他绝对能接受他，09-07 19:58:44-09-07 19:58:47If the snow mountain could accept him,
23/258 54.45-55.59 n 甚至都能够做得出来。09-07 19:58:44-09-07 19:58:47It can even be done.
24/258 55.89-56.61 aaa 那么顾晨呢，09-07 19:58:45-09-07 19:58:48So, what about Gu Chen?
25/258 57.69-58.95 n 其实顾臣这个事情，09-07 19:58:48-09-07 19:58:52Actually, the matter of Gu Chen is...
26/258 59.19-63.79 n 我自己的感感觉这个事情顾程杀妻被神话，09-07 19:58:48-09-07 19:58:52I feel that the incident of Gu Cheng killing his wife has been mythologized.
27/258 64.33-65.59 hp 他最不尊重的人是谁？09-07 19:58:49-09-07 19:58:52Who does he disrespect the most?
28/258 66.46-68.08 aaa 是那个被他杀死的妻子，09-07 19:58:50-09-07 19:58:55It was the wife who had been killed by him.
29/258 69.43-73.16 n 那才是真正要我们去考虑尊重死者的问题。09-07 19:58:52-09-07 19:58:56That's the real issue we need to consider: how to respect the deceased.
30/258 74.7-76.02 hp 我们表扬了一个凶手，09-07 19:58:53-09-07 19:58:55We praised a perpetrator.
31/258 77.17-81.18 n 我们淡忘了被害者的死亡是这么一个情况。09-07 19:58:53-09-07 19:58:57We have forgotten that the victim's death was such a thing.
32/258 81.3-83.28 hp 但是可惜振方同学从头到尾，09-07 19:58:56-09-07 19:59:01However, it's a pity that classmate Zhen has been from beginning to end.
33/258 83.95-86.44 bg 完全没有了解和分析这个事情。09-07 19:58:57-09-07 19:59:36I have no knowledge or understanding of this matter.
34/258 87.6-88.92 n 其实死者为大，09-07 19:58:58-09-07 19:59:00Actually, the deceased is greater.
35/258 89.1-90.54 n 不是我们传统文化，09-07 19:58:58-09-07 19:59:00Not our traditional culture.
36/258 90.84-91.74 n 死者为大这个词，09-07 19:59:01-09-07 19:59:42The phrase "dead are greater" is a common expression in Chinese, often used to express sympathy or condolences. It can also be used as a euphemism for death itself. The meaning of the phrase depends on the context in which it is used. In some cases, it may simply mean that the deceased has passed away and will no longer be with us. In other cases, it may imply that the deceased was a great person who made a significant contribution to society or their family. For example, if someone dies of cancer, they might say "the dead are greater" in order to express sympathy for the victim's suffering. If someone dies as a result of an accident, they might say "the dead are greater" in order to acknowledge that the person was not at fault and should be remembered with respect. In general, the phrase "dead are greater" is used when there is a sense of loss or sadness over the death of someone who has been important to us. It can also be used as a way to express our gratitude for the life they lived and the impact they had on others.
37/258 91.86-93.66 n 其实是影视作品传出来的。09-07 19:59:01-09-07 19:59:04Actually, it came from film and television works.
38/258 94.1-94.76 hp 具体是哪一部？09-07 19:59:02-09-07 19:59:04Which one specifically?
39/258 94.88-95.36 hp 我们不清楚，09-07 19:59:05-09-07 19:59:08We don't know.
40/258 95.48-98.18 n 大概是八九十年代的影视作品传出来的。09-07 19:59:06-09-07 19:59:12Probably from a film or TV show produced in the 1980s or early 1990s.
41/258 98.76-101.64 aaa 中国人讲慎宗虽远死神大爷，09-07 19:59:06-09-07 19:59:11Chinese people say that even if the distant ancestor is not dead,
42/258 102.08-103.04 hp 或者叫国之大事，09-07 19:59:09-09-07 19:59:12Or called the great affairs of the nation,
43/258 103.64-104.36 aaa 再次再荣，09-07 19:59:11-09-07 19:59:15Again and again,
44/258 106.15-107.41 de 但中国人从来没有讲过，09-07 19:59:12-09-07 19:59:56But the Chinese have never spoken about it.
45/258 107.53-109.57 n 死者为大最典型的就是皇帝去世。09-07 19:59:13-09-07 19:59:16The most typical death of the emperor is when he dies.
46/258 109.81-111.79 hp 你们双方围绕秦始皇有一个交锋，09-07 19:59:13-09-07 19:59:17You two have been debating about Qin Shi Huang.
47/258 112.67-113.39 aaa 皇帝去世。09-07 19:59:16-09-07 19:59:19The emperor died.
48/258 113.99-117.61 n 我们一般叫大行皇帝是皇帝走了嘛，09-07 19:59:17-09-07 19:59:21We usually call the emperor who has passed away as "the former emperor".
49/258 117.79-119.35 hp 大行皇帝或者叫大行宫。09-07 19:59:17-09-07 19:59:20Grand Emperor or Grand Palace.
50/258 120.11-122.51 aaa 但是皇帝去世先皇去世以后，09-07 19:59:20-09-07 19:59:27However, after the emperor's death and the previous emperor's death,
51/258 122.63-125.45 hp 他的真正这一摊事什么时候终止呢？09-07 20:04:21-09-07 20:04:24When will his business finally end?
52/258 126.41-127.07 hp 给谥号、09-07 19:59:21-09-07 19:59:24Give a title,
53/258 127.37-128.75 n 谥号就叫盖棺定论。09-07 19:59:22-09-07 19:59:24The epithet is called a final judgment.
54/258 129.23-133.73 de 谥号通常可以非常严厉的就是你干了一些坏事，09-07 19:59:22-09-07 20:00:46The posthumous titles can be very severe, especially if someone has committed serious crimes.
55/258 133.91-135.23 hp 你不是个称职的皇帝，09-07 19:59:25-09-07 19:59:29You are not a proper emperor,
56/258 135.95-138.77 n 是大大方方说出来扣在你的棺材上的。09-07 19:59:25-09-07 19:59:29It's a confession, spoken out loud.
57/258 138.89-139.85 aaa 虽然那时候已经下葬，09-07 19:59:28-09-07 19:59:30Although it was already buried,
58/258 140.09-143.93 hp 就等于是扣在你的棺材上的中国人强调盖棺定论，09-07 19:59:30-09-07 19:59:37It's like the Chinese saying, "Let's put him in his coffin and then decide whether he was right or wrong."
59/258 144.29-147.53 n 中国人从来把传统话里没有所谓的死者为大，09-07 19:59:30-09-07 19:59:36Chinese people have always believed that in traditional culture, the deceased are not to be considered as important.
60/258 148.91-149.45 aaa 死者为大，09-07 19:59:31-09-07 19:59:33The dead are greater,
61/258 149.63-150.47 aaa 是一个现代化术，09-07 19:59:34-09-07 19:59:36A modern term,
62/258 151.01-151.49 n 为什么呢？09-07 19:59:36-09-07 19:59:37Why?
63/258 151.85-153.59 bg 就是觉得人都死了，09-07 19:59:37-09-07 20:00:09I just feel like people are dead.
64/258 153.71-154.91 aaa 就别太刻薄了，09-07 19:59:38-09-07 19:59:41Don't be too harsh.
65/258 156.11-156.41 hp 是吧？09-07 19:59:38-09-07 19:59:41Is it?
66/258 156.77-157.73 n 是个现代话术，09-07 19:59:39-09-07 19:59:41A modern slang term.
67/258 158.15-159.59 hp 我自己的人生经验的。09-07 19:59:41-09-07 19:59:44My own life experience.
68/258 159.95-161.45 aaa 我对这个话是很讨厌的。09-07 19:59:42-09-07 19:59:44I dislike this statement.
69/258 161.69-165.59 n 最近开始逐渐参加一些我很讨厌的人的葬礼了啊，09-07 19:59:43-09-07 19:59:47I've recently started attending funerals of people I really don't like.
70/258 166.49-170.03 xss 我的一些同事就劝我去包礼金啊之类的，09-07 19:59:43-09-07 20:02:40Some of my colleagues have been suggesting that I give gift money.
71/258 170.15-170.63 n 我就不愿意。09-07 19:59:44-09-07 19:59:47I don't want to.
72/258 171.65-173.03 hp 我说他他对我一点都不好，09-07 19:59:45-09-07 19:59:48I said he wasn't good to me at all.
73/258 174.17-175.25 aaa 然后我同事就跟我讲，09-07 19:59:45-09-07 19:59:48Then my colleague told me,
74/258 175.43-175.97 n 死者为大，09-07 19:59:48-09-07 19:59:49The dead are greater.
75/258 177.29-178.49 n 我就觉得非常不舒服。09-07 19:59:48-09-07 19:59:50I feel very uncomfortable.
76/258 179.45-180.48 aaa 我说我我不这么觉得，09-07 19:59:49-09-07 19:59:54I said I don't think so.
77/258 181.38-182.58 hp 我觉得生者为大，09-07 19:59:50-09-07 19:59:54I think life is the most important thing.
78/258 183.9-184.56 n 让我就不去。09-07 19:59:50-09-07 19:59:51Let me go.
79/258 186.3-189.78 n 但是我们对于葬礼上的刻薄言论，09-07 19:59:51-09-07 19:59:55However, we have to deal with the harsh comments made at funerals.
80/258 189.96-190.98 n 我们对于一个人死亡，09-07 19:59:52-09-07 19:59:55We are concerned about a person's death,
81/258 191.34-192.54 aaa 下面留的刻薄言论，09-07 19:59:54-09-07 19:59:57The following sarcastic remarks,
82/258 192.66-193.74 hp 是不是都会不舒服，09-07 19:59:55-09-07 19:59:57Are you uncomfortable?
83/258 194.88-196.2 n 是都不舒服的。09-07 19:59:56-09-07 19:59:57All are uncomfortable.
84/258 196.98-198.54 n 这个辩题其实讲的很简单，09-07 19:59:56-09-07 19:59:58This argument is actually very simple.
85/258 198.96-199.68 de 这种不舒服，09-07 19:59:57-09-07 20:00:22This is uncomfortable.
86/258 199.8-201.24 n 我们要怎么看待这种不舒服，09-07 19:59:58-09-07 19:59:59How should we view this discomfort?
87/258 201.36-202.8 hp 是否足以成为一种理由，09-07 19:59:59-09-07 20:00:02Is it enough to be a reason,
88/258 203.7-205.2 aaa 让我们每个人有一种敬畏。09-07 19:59:59-09-07 20:00:02Let everyone have a sense of awe.
89/258 205.62-210.9 n 其实讨论的是这个我觉得是应该有敬畏的，09-07 20:00:00-09-07 20:00:03Actually, what I'm talking about is something that should be respected.
90/258 211.68-212.099 n 为什么？09-07 20:00:00-09-07 20:00:02Why?
91/258 212.639-217.8 n 因为人类文明的起点源自于人类对于死亡的敬畏，09-07 20:00:03-09-07 20:00:07Because human civilization began with the reverence for death by humans,
92/258 218.46-220.32 hp 就人类文明的起点是什么？09-07 20:00:03-09-07 20:00:07What is the origin of human civilization?
93/258 220.44-224.76 aaa 大家知道什么时候人成为人死者为大最早的萌芽是什么？09-07 20:00:04-09-07 20:00:10When did the earliest seeds of "people who died" begin to sprout? Everyone knows.
94/258 225.6-227.04 n 就是同类死亡之后，09-07 20:00:05-09-07 20:00:07After the death of a similar person,
95/258 227.1-228.3 n 我们不再把它吃掉了。09-07 20:00:07-09-07 20:00:08We no longer eat it.
96/258 228.66-229.56 n 最早人类的时候，09-07 20:05:09-09-07 20:05:10In the earliest times of humanity,
97/258 229.68-231.0 n 大家知道一个人死亡，09-07 20:00:08-09-07 20:00:10Everyone knows that when a person dies,
98/258 231.12-232.26 hp 大家都分而时之啊，09-07 20:00:09-09-07 20:00:11Everyone comes and goes,
99/258 232.68-234.96 n 其实人类有非常长的吃人的传统，09-07 20:00:10-09-07 20:00:14In fact, humans have a very long history of cannibalism.
100/258 235.92-237.6 bg 但人类什么时候开始不吃呢？09-07 20:00:10-09-07 20:00:47When did humans start not eating?
101/258 238.56-239.76 n 人类文明的起源，09-07 20:00:11-09-07 20:00:14The origin of human civilization,
102/258 241.15-242.11 aaa 人类开始知道，09-07 20:00:12-09-07 20:00:14Humans began to know,
103/258 242.35-243.55 hp 要把同伴埋起来，09-07 20:00:12-09-07 20:00:15To bury a companion,
104/258 244.45-245.83 n 要给同伴办个葬礼，09-07 20:00:14-09-07 20:00:18How to give a funeral for my friend,
105/258 246.55-247.99 n 要给同伴一份体面，09-07 20:00:15-09-07 20:00:18To give a companion dignity,
106/258 249.19-249.97 aaa 死者为大，09-07 20:00:16-09-07 20:00:19The dead are greater,
107/258 250.15-252.13 hp 实际上是对生的重视，09-07 20:00:16-09-07 20:00:20In fact, it is an emphasis on life.
108/258 253.09-256.21 n 是对人作为一种独特生命的体察，09-07 20:00:19-09-07 20:00:21A deep understanding of human beings as unique individuals,
109/258 257.35-257.89 n 死者为大，09-07 20:00:20-09-07 20:00:21The dead are greater.
110/258 258.07-260.53 aaa 意味着我们对于情感回忆的重视，09-07 20:00:20-09-07 20:00:24This means that we value emotional memories.
111/258 260.77-262.39 hp 胜过了对于食品的渴望，09-07 20:00:21-09-07 20:00:24Overcame the craving for food,
112/258 262.93-263.53 n 就这个辩题。09-07 20:00:22-09-07 20:00:23Regarding this topic.
113/258 263.71-266.47 n 因为这因为这应该也是最后一场讲这个辩题了。09-07 20:00:23-09-07 20:00:26Because this should also be the last time to discuss this topic.
114/258 266.53-271.69 de 所以我就觉得我可以把我对这个辩题的真实看法跟大家分享死者为大。09-07 20:00:24-09-07 20:01:50So, I thought it was a good idea to share my honest opinion on the topic with everyone.
115/258 272.41-274.45 n 如果你要真的往重的讲正放，09-07 20:00:24-09-07 20:00:27If you really want to go into the heavy side,
116/258 274.99-276.61 hp 我觉得它是文明的起源，09-07 20:00:25-09-07 20:00:28I think it's the origin of civilization.
117/258 277.03-278.41 aaa 那么对于中国社会而言，09-07 20:00:26-09-07 20:00:27For China,
118/258 278.59-279.67 n 它就更重要了。09-07 20:00:27-09-07 20:00:28It is even more important.
119/258 280.27-280.57 n 为什么？09-07 20:00:28-09-07 20:00:28Why?
120/258 280.69-282.01 aaa 因为我们是个世俗社会，09-07 20:00:28-09-07 20:00:31Because we are a secular society,
121/258 282.55-283.75 n 是个无神社会，09-07 20:00:29-09-07 20:00:31It is a godless society,
122/258 284.95-287.11 n 我们没有提供价值终点的地方，09-07 20:00:30-09-07 20:00:32We don't provide a value endpoint.
123/258 287.77-289.15 hp 就是上坟这件事情，09-07 20:00:31-09-07 20:00:33The matter of visiting graves,
124/258 289.33-290.95 n 对中国人和对外国人不一样。09-07 20:00:32-09-07 20:00:34It's different for Chinese people and foreigners.
125/258 291.43-293.95 aaa 我们很多人对于社会的对于家族，09-07 20:00:32-09-07 20:00:37Many of us have thoughts and feelings about society, family,
126/258 294.25-295.33 n 对于人生的理解，09-07 20:00:33-09-07 20:00:34Understanding of life,
127/258 295.81-297.49 hp 就是通过上坟来完成的，09-07 20:00:34-09-07 20:00:37It's done by visiting the grave.
128/258 298.39-299.23 n 通过到祠堂，09-07 20:00:35-09-07 20:00:37By reaching the temple,
129/258 299.47-299.77 n 对不对？09-07 20:00:35-09-07 20:00:37Is it right?
130/258 300.38-301.82 n 所以北方人有时候很可怜，09-07 20:00:38-09-07 20:00:40Therefore, northerners are sometimes pitiful.
131/258 302.06-304.76 n 北方人是一个破碎的原子，09-07 20:00:39-09-07 20:00:42The Northerners are a broken atom.
132/258 305.3-305.84 aaa 孤零零的。09-07 20:00:39-09-07 20:00:42Alone.
133/258 306.38-307.58 hp 你到南方宗族话，09-07 20:00:40-09-07 20:00:43You speak in the Southern dialect.
134/258 307.76-311.48 n 你会发现它真的那个坟山上层层叠叠的祖坟，09-07 20:00:42-09-07 20:00:46You will find that it is really the ancestral tomb on the hill,
135/258 311.6-312.8 n 给人感觉真的叫脱体。09-07 20:00:43-09-07 20:00:46It feels like it's completely detached from reality.
136/258 313.16-315.38 aaa 同山恶在一个世俗社会，09-07 20:00:44-09-07 20:00:46In a secular society,
137/258 315.62-317.36 hp 如果没有对于死的重视，09-07 20:00:44-09-07 20:00:47Without a proper understanding of death,
138/258 317.9-320.96 n 生就是碎片的生就是缥缈的，09-07 20:00:47-09-07 20:00:50Life is a fragment of life, it's fleeting and ethereal.
139/258 321.26-321.32 aaa 身，09-07 20:00:48-09-07 20:00:49Body,
140/258 321.56-322.46 n 就是虚无的，09-07 20:00:49-09-07 20:00:50It's nothing,
141/258 322.82-322.88 bg 身，09-07 20:00:49-09-07 20:01:05Body,
142/258 323.12-324.02 hp 就是短暂的。09-07 20:00:50-09-07 20:00:53It's fleeting.
143/258 324.38-325.46 aaa 对于死的尊重，09-07 20:00:50-09-07 20:00:53Respect for death,
144/258 325.64-327.44 n 才构建起永恒的价值。09-07 20:00:51-09-07 20:00:54Only by building it can we create lasting value.
145/258 327.98-331.16 n 因为所有的深在时间上都是有限的，09-07 20:00:52-09-07 20:00:54Because all depths are limited in time,
146/258 331.4-333.68 hp 而死在时间上是无限的。09-07 20:00:54-09-07 20:00:58And death in time is infinite.
147/258 334.88-335.66 aaa 死者为大，09-07 20:00:55-09-07 20:00:58The dead are greater,
148/258 335.78-338.36 n 实际上是在我们的文明里注入了永恒的意义，09-07 20:00:55-09-07 20:00:59In fact, it injects eternal meaning into our civilization.
149/258 338.9-340.64 n 尤其对一个无神论的社会，09-07 20:00:56-09-07 20:00:58Especially in a non-religious society,
150/258 340.94-342.44 hp 对于一个世俗社会而言，09-07 20:00:59-09-07 20:01:01For a secular society,
151/258 342.68-344.24 de 这种永恒太重要了，09-07 20:00:59-09-07 20:01:36This eternity is so important,
152/258 344.78-345.14 aaa 为什么？09-07 20:01:00-09-07 20:01:01Why?
153/258 345.44-346.7 n 因为如果没有这种永恒，09-07 20:01:00-09-07 20:01:03Because there is no such eternity,
154/258 347.06-350.9 n 那么道德的滑坡价值的虚无是不可避免的，09-07 20:01:01-09-07 20:01:05Therefore, the moral slippery slope of value nihilism is inevitable.
155/258 351.38-354.5 n 就是真的不怕鬼敲门做了坏事也不怕鬼敲门。09-07 20:06:03-09-07 20:06:08It's really not afraid of ghosts knocking on the door and doing bad things, nor is it afraid of being knocked by ghosts.
156/258 354.62-355.88 hp 因为这个世界上没有鬼啊，09-07 20:01:02-09-07 20:01:06Because there are no ghosts in this world,
157/258 356.78-359.48 aaa 你们知道以前在英国殖民地的时候，09-07 20:01:03-09-07 20:01:07Do you know that in the British colonial era,
158/258 360.19-360.97 n 大家都有证人，09-07 20:01:04-09-07 20:01:05Everyone has a witness.
159/258 361.03-362.17 n 那个时候不都正人正言吗？09-07 20:01:06-09-07 20:01:09Were they not all being honest and upright at that time?
160/258 362.89-364.57 bg 为了防止这人撒谎怎么办呢？09-07 20:01:07-09-07 20:01:47How to prevent this person from lying?
161/258 365.35-367.69 n 老外要拿着圣经手摁圣经，09-07 20:01:07-09-07 20:01:09Foreigners holding the Bible and pressing it.
162/258 367.87-369.13 hp 发誓中国人要干嘛？09-07 20:01:08-09-07 20:01:12What are Chinese people going to do?
163/258 369.31-370.69 aaa 中国人要对自己祖宗发誓，09-07 20:01:09-09-07 20:01:12Chinese people must swear to their ancestors,
164/258 372.01-373.33 n 因为中国人对着圣经发誓，09-07 20:01:10-09-07 20:01:12Because Chinese people swear by the Bible,
165/258 373.45-373.87 n 老外不幸，09-07 20:01:10-09-07 20:01:12The foreigner was unfortunate,
166/258 374.35-379.57 hp 所以中国人侮辱性最大的不是针对你是针对先人，09-07 20:01:13-09-07 20:01:18Therefore, what Chinese people are most insulting is not directed at you, but at your ancestors.
167/258 380.59-380.83 n 对吧？09-07 20:01:13-09-07 20:01:14Right?
168/258 380.95-382.93 n 我们用四川话那个叫什么什么先人，09-07 20:01:14-09-07 20:01:17We use the Sichuan dialect, which is called...
169/258 383.35-384.25 n 什么什么祖宗，09-07 20:01:15-09-07 20:01:17What the heck,
170/258 384.55-384.79 n 对吧？09-07 20:01:18-09-07 20:01:18Right?
171/258 385.03-386.89 n 什么什么侮辱你没有意思，09-07 20:01:18-09-07 20:01:20What are you talking about?
172/258 387.07-387.37 hp 侮辱你，09-07 20:01:19-09-07 20:01:21Insult you,
173/258 387.49-388.27 n 你不怕侮辱，09-07 20:01:20-09-07 20:01:21You are not afraid of insults.
174/258 389.23-390.67 aaa 你可以坦然面对侮辱，09-07 20:01:20-09-07 20:01:24You can face insults calmly.
175/258 391.99-392.71 n 但侮辱你，09-07 20:01:21-09-07 20:01:24But insult you,
176/258 392.769-393.25 n 祖宗不行，09-07 20:01:22-09-07 20:01:24Grandfather is not good,
177/258 394.27-396.07 hp 祖宗这个东西死者为大，09-07 20:01:22-09-07 20:01:28The "Zou Zong" (a term referring to ancestors) is a powerful force, even after death.
178/258 396.19-399.19 n 这个东西是奠定了我们这个社会的价值底线的。09-07 20:01:24-09-07 20:01:27This is the foundation of our society's values.
179/258 399.61-400.69 n 所谓无父无母、09-07 20:01:25-09-07 20:01:27Without a father or mother,
180/258 401.71-402.25 aaa 无祖宗，09-07 20:01:26-09-07 20:01:27No ancestors,
181/258 402.85-404.71 n 这种人非常可怕的，09-07 20:01:28-09-07 20:01:30These people are very scary.
182/258 406.09-407.89 n 就是可能这是这个辩题最后的一场。09-07 20:01:29-09-07 20:01:31This might be the final round of this debate.
183/258 408.01-410.35 aaa 所以我就把这个跟大家讲明白，09-07 20:01:29-09-07 20:01:33So I explained this to everyone,
184/258 410.59-411.19 hp 就很遗憾，09-07 20:01:30-09-07 20:01:33I'm very sorry,
185/258 411.67-412.57 n 非常非常的遗憾。09-07 20:01:31-09-07 20:01:33I'm very, very sorry.
186/258 412.69-414.13 n 你们把这个没有讲明白。09-07 20:01:32-09-07 20:01:33You didn't explain this clearly.
187/258 414.67-415.33 aaa 其实在我看来，09-07 20:01:34-09-07 20:01:36In my opinion,
188/258 415.39-417.07 hp 正方的利论本来可以非常简单，09-07 20:01:35-09-07 20:01:39The advantages of a square are quite simple.
189/258 417.25-418.21 n 什么叫死者为大呀？09-07 20:01:35-09-07 20:01:39What does "the dead are greater" mean?
190/258 418.69-422.43 n 就是这个说话要分时机，09-07 20:01:36-09-07 20:01:39The key is to choose the right time and place.
191/258 423.6-424.62 aaa 别人刚死了人，09-07 20:01:37-09-07 20:01:39Someone just died,
192/258 425.38-425.62 de 对吧？09-07 20:01:37-09-07 20:01:52Right?
193/258 426.2-427.1 hp 别太刻薄，09-07 20:01:40-09-07 20:01:43Don't be too harsh,
194/258 428.14-428.5 n 对不对？09-07 20:01:41-09-07 20:01:41Is it right?
195/258 429.24-430.56 n 是吧尊重他人，09-07 20:01:41-09-07 20:01:42Respect others,
196/258 431.04-431.7 aaa 尊重死亡，09-07 20:01:42-09-07 20:01:44Respect death,
197/258 432.06-432.78 n 带点敬畏，09-07 20:01:42-09-07 20:01:44With a sense of awe,
198/258 433.08-433.86 n 别太刻薄。09-07 20:01:43-09-07 20:01:45Don't be too harsh.
199/258 434.5-436.24 hp 可是正方把这个打成了什么呢？09-07 20:01:44-09-07 20:01:47But what did the square turn it into?
200/258 436.85-440.12 aaa 把这个打成了碗梗玩梗，09-07 20:01:45-09-07 20:01:49I turned this into a bowl of noodles, playing with the word.
201/258 440.42-442.64 n 我不觉得就那么不对，09-07 20:01:45-09-07 20:01:48I don't think it was that wrong.
202/258 445.02-446.16 n 反三说的很简单，09-07 20:01:46-09-07 20:01:48The anti-three principles is simple,
203/258 446.77-447.55 hp 有什么不对呢？09-07 20:01:48-09-07 20:01:50What's wrong?
204/258 447.73-448.749 bg 这方反而很尴尬。09-07 20:01:49-09-07 20:02:17This is awkward.
205/258 450.42-451.14 n 王梗怎么了？09-07 20:01:49-09-07 20:01:51What's wrong with Wang?
206/258 452.44-455.32 n 所以正方为了让玩梗变得更有说服力，09-07 20:01:50-09-07 20:01:53Therefore, the square is designed to make jokes more convincing.
207/258 455.5-457.3 aaa 正方把玩梗又变成了网报。09-07 20:01:51-09-07 20:01:56The square's "playful" gimmick has been turned into an online trend.
208/258 458.92-461.62 de 可是网报对于死者和生者是一样的，09-07 20:01:51-09-07 20:02:53However, the internet is the same for both the dead and the living.
209/258 462.24-464.76 hp 而且我们为什么会反对网报死者呢？09-07 20:01:52-09-07 20:01:56And why do we oppose the death penalty for online criminals?
210/258 464.94-466.08 n 因为反对网报，09-07 20:01:53-09-07 20:01:54Due to opposition from the internet,
211/258 466.26-468.42 de 死者是伤害了生者的感情。09-07 20:01:53-09-07 20:02:33The deceased caused emotional harm to the living.
212/258 469.63-471.07 n 这不是死者为大。09-07 20:01:54-09-07 20:01:56This is not the dead.
213/258 472.45-474.13 n 在现代法律意义上，09-07 20:01:55-09-07 20:01:56In modern legal terms,
214/258 474.43-478.08 n 死者的名誉权是源于生者的法律利益的保护。09-07 20:01:57-09-07 20:02:01The deceased's reputation right is derived from the protection of living people's legal interests.
215/258 479.57-480.83 hp 只有他的直系亲友，09-07 20:01:58-09-07 20:02:01Only his immediate family and friends,
216/258 481.78-482.5 aaa 他可以告诉你，09-07 20:01:58-09-07 20:02:01He can tell you,
217/258 482.92-485.02 n 因为现在的法律是来自于西方法律体系，09-07 20:01:59-09-07 20:02:02Because the current laws are based on Western legal systems,
218/258 485.35-488.44 aaa 他是建助于生者权益之上的衍生权益，09-07 20:02:01-09-07 20:02:07He is a derivative right based on the rights of others.
219/258 488.95-490.69 hp 死者对他有特殊的利益。09-07 20:02:02-09-07 20:02:05The deceased had special interests in him.
220/258 490.99-492.13 n 所以死者为答，09-07 20:02:03-09-07 20:02:05Therefore, the deceased replied.
221/258 492.31-494.47 n 这个是不能证明真正的大的。09-07 20:02:03-09-07 20:02:05This cannot be proven to be truly large.
222/258 496.56-503.39 n 所以用我觉得用网报用网梗恰恰是正方最难证明郑诚自己观点的地方，09-07 20:02:06-09-07 20:02:12Therefore, I think that the most difficult place to prove Zheng's point is using online news and gossip.
223/258 504.98-507.14 n 是最难证明自己关系非常困难的。09-07 20:02:06-09-07 20:02:12It's very difficult to prove that you have a close relationship.
224/258 507.43-510.72 hp 因为网报死生一样完梗，09-07 20:02:07-09-07 20:02:12Because the online death and resurrection meme is so overused,
225/258 511.31-516.64 aaa 你们很难说有一些无关痛痒的梗不够严肃的人又有什么问题呢？09-07 20:02:08-09-07 20:02:15It's hard to say what the problem is with some jokes that aren't very serious.
226/258 517.06-517.78 n 葬礼上玩梗，09-07 20:02:12-09-07 20:02:14Jokes at funerals,
227/258 517.96-519.88 n 中国人从很早就开始玩呐，09-07 20:02:13-09-07 20:02:15Chinese people have been playing since a long time ago.
228/258 520.12-520.66 hp 你们知道吗？09-07 20:02:14-09-07 20:02:16Do you know?
229/258 521.16-522.96 n 惠子和庄子就开始玩起来了，09-07 20:02:16-09-07 20:02:18Hui Zi and Zhuang Zhou began to play.
230/258 523.26-524.1 aaa 庄子老婆死了，09-07 20:02:16-09-07 20:02:21Zhuang Zhou's wife died,
231/258 525.06-527.7 n 庄子古儿歌打击乐都上来了。09-07 20:02:17-09-07 20:02:21The ancient music of Zhuangzi, the lyrics and percussion instruments are all coming up.
232/258 527.94-528.48 hp 庄子庄子，09-07 20:02:18-09-07 20:02:21Zhuang Zhou,
233/258 528.6-529.2 bg 那喊麦呢，09-07 20:02:18-09-07 20:02:47What about the karaoke?
234/258 529.32-531.06 hp 那 rap 呢惠子就来了，09-07 20:02:22-09-07 20:02:24Then, the rap came.
235/258 531.12-531.84 aaa 说你有点过，09-07 20:02:22-09-07 20:02:26Tell me you're a little bit crazy,
236/258 532.82-533.06 n 对吧？09-07 20:02:23-09-07 20:02:24Right?
237/258 533.18-534.679 n 虽然我们知道升官发财死老婆，09-07 20:02:24-09-07 20:02:28Although we know that getting promoted, making money, and dying of old age are the three major life goals,
238/258 534.8-534.98 n 对吧？09-07 20:02:24-09-07 20:02:25Right?
239/258 535.04-535.46 hp 人到中年，09-07 20:02:25-09-07 20:02:28People in their middle age,
240/258 535.89-537.92 n 但有点过了合适吗？09-07 20:02:26-09-07 20:02:28Is it appropriate?
241/258 539.06-542.68 aaa 庄子就跟惠子讲说人死万事空啊，09-07 20:02:27-09-07 20:02:33Zhuang Zhou told Hui Tzu, "All things are empty when a man dies."
242/258 544.16-544.88 n 那何必呢？09-07 20:02:29-09-07 20:02:30Why bother?
243/258 545.24-547.52 hp 所以你真要完给你看庄子，09-07 20:02:30-09-07 20:02:34So, you really want to give me Zhuangzi?
244/258 547.76-549.56 n 庄子还有后面他不是庄子的书，09-07 20:02:30-09-07 20:02:35There are more books written after Zhuangzi, but they are not by the same person as Zhuangzi.
245/258 549.68-551.48 n 是后面还有个关于庄子的记载，09-07 20:02:31-09-07 20:02:33There is a record about Zhuang Zhou following,
246/258 551.95-552.73 aaa 双子还假死，09-07 20:02:33-09-07 20:02:38The twins pretended to be dead.
247/258 552.91-553.57 de 还玩过梗呢，09-07 20:02:34-09-07 20:03:07I've been there too,
248/258 554.11-559.55 n 就是在葬礼上玩很很多的中国既有儒家这样强调秩序的，09-07 20:02:35-09-07 20:02:38In the funeral, there are many Chinese customs that emphasize order.
249/258 559.97-562.19 hp 也有道家这样生死其一，09-07 20:02:35-09-07 20:02:42There is also the Taoist way of life, where one chooses between life and death.
250/258 562.37-563.69 n 很潇洒从容的。09-07 20:02:36-09-07 20:02:38Elegant and composed.
251/258 565.13-566.63 aaa 所以你如果你们谈完梗，09-07 20:02:39-09-07 20:02:42So, if you've finished the joke,
252/258 567.3-569.77 n 的确是很难说缚啊，09-07 20:02:39-09-07 20:02:42It's really hard to say,
253/258 569.95-573.12 n 所以在论证上我觉得反方做的更好。09-07 20:02:40-09-07 20:02:43Therefore, in terms of argumentation, I think the opposing side did a better job.
254/258 574.63-575.65 xss 在第一印象上，09-07 20:02:42-09-07 20:04:00On the first impression,
255/258 576.21-578.81 hp 我觉得正方做的更好啊，09-07 20:02:43-09-07 20:02:47I think the positive side is doing better.
256/258 579.11-581.57 n 至于辩论的这一票就留给悬念，09-07 20:02:43-09-07 20:02:47The outcome of the debate remains uncertain.
257/258 581.99-582.23 aaa 好吧，09-07 20:02:44-09-07 20:02:47Okay,
258/258 582.47-583.73 n 这就是我投出来的感觉。09-07 20:02:45-09-07 20:02:47That's how I feel.