1/505 0.21-3.87 n 我们跟踪拍摄快一年的顶级黑客大牛蛙团队,09-03 15:38:35-09-03 15:38:39We have been tracking the top hacker elite frog team for a year.
2/505 4.29-9.57 n 刚刚在国际 a i 安全测试赛镜中拿下了全球第一。09-03 15:38:35-09-03 15:38:39Just won first place in the international AI safety testing competition.
3/505 10.41-14.91 hp 其实大牛蛙和他的团队曾经创下了黑客界的多项记录。09-03 15:38:39-09-03 15:38:44Actually, the big bull frog and his team have broken many records in the hacking world.
4/505 15.69-20.61 de 他们是首个获得全球顶级黑客大赛冠军的亚洲团队,09-03 15:38:39-09-03 15:39:43They are the first Asian team to win a championship in the world's top hacking competition.
5/505 21.09-23.61 aaa 并且连续三年五次夺冠。09-03 15:38:40-09-03 15:38:42And has won the championship for three consecutive years, five times.
6/505 24.27-33.04 xss 他们也是亚洲首个远程破解苹果系统全球首个远程能攻破特斯拉和纯雪鸿蒙的团队。09-03 15:38:41-09-03 15:40:15They are also the first Asian team to remotely crack Apple's system, and the first in the world to remotely hack Tesla and Pure Snow Harmony.
7/505 33.76-37.24 n 但这次的第一与以往所有的都不一样,09-03 15:38:41-09-03 15:38:45But this first time is different from all the previous times.
8/505 38.08-42.94 n 因为赛 g被称为 a i 安全界最大的竞技场,09-03 15:38:42-09-03 15:38:46Because the "Safe" competition is considered to be the largest and most prestigious in the AI security field,
9/505 43.84-47.38 de 全球所有的 a i 巨头都在这个赛场里比拼,09-03 15:38:42-09-03 15:39:27All the major AI companies are competing in this arena.
10/505 47.92-56.26 n 而比拼的结果直接关系到你我工作生活中越来越多 a i 产品的安全底线。09-03 15:43:44-09-03 15:43:49And the results of these competitions directly affect the safety baseline of more and more AI products in our work and daily lives.
11/505 57.64-58.0 aaa 这一次,09-03 15:38:44-09-03 15:38:44This time,
12/505 58.54-62.9 bg 大牛蛙团队平借他们自己研发的 a i 安全系统,09-03 15:38:44-09-03 15:39:42The Big Bull Frog team successfully used their own AI security system to protect themselves.
13/505 63.32-67.56 hp deeps 联合上海头部的人工智能研究机构,09-03 15:38:45-09-03 15:38:49deep collaborates with leading AI research institutions in Shanghai,
14/505 68.34-78.86 aaa 用国产开元大模型做底座的 do给内vy a i 安全工程在赛博 g 中拿到了百分之九十四点九六的成绩,09-03 15:38:46-09-03 15:38:51With the domestic OpenAI large model as a foundation, do gave invy a i security engineering in Cyber G 94.9% of the score.
15/505 79.53-81.65 n 直接冲到全球第一。09-03 15:38:46-09-03 15:38:49Go straight to the top.
16/505 84.52-87.22 n 那我们这次是拿下了 cyber dream 的全球第一。09-03 15:38:47-09-03 15:38:49Then we won the global first place in Cyber Dream.
17/505 87.57-87.6 n 嗯,09-03 15:38:50-09-03 15:38:50Well,
18/505 87.72-91.14 hp 那实际上超过了哪些全球顶尖的一些 a i 的巨头。09-03 15:38:50-09-03 15:38:55In fact, it has exceeded some of the world's top AI giants.
19/505 91.65-95.43 n 这里面其实我们比较在意的就是 open a i 的 g p t,09-03 15:38:51-09-03 15:38:54What we're really interested in here is the open-source GPT,
20/505 95.79-95.82 n 嗯,09-03 15:38:51-09-03 15:38:52Well,
21/505 96.2-100.06 aaa 还有 an pick 的 cloud 这个 missiles 这包,09-03 15:38:52-09-03 15:38:54And there's an pick of the cloud missiles, this package.
22/505 100.18-100.96 n 甚至包括微软,09-03 15:38:53-09-03 15:38:54Including Microsoft,
23/505 101.14-101.62 n 还有 google,09-03 15:38:55-09-03 15:38:56Also Google,
24/505 102.01-104.43 n 然后还有一些国内的一些大厂,09-03 15:38:56-09-03 15:38:57Then there are some large domestic companies,
25/505 105.08-106.22 aaa 他们都参与了这个。09-03 15:38:56-09-03 15:38:57They all participated in this.
26/505 106.57-106.63 hp 对,09-03 15:38:57-09-03 15:38:59Okay,
27/505 106.87-109.99 n 因为这个相对来说是一个比较权威的一个榜单。09-03 15:38:58-09-03 15:38:59Because this is a relatively authoritative list.
28/505 110.56-110.62 n 嗯,09-03 15:38:58-09-03 15:38:59Well,
29/505 111.19-112.94 aaa 那你正好跟大家说一说,09-03 15:38:59-09-03 15:39:01I'm just going to tell you about it,
30/505 113.06-115.52 hp 因为在业界肯定是非常有知名度,09-03 15:38:59-09-03 15:39:03Because it is definitely well-known in the industry,
31/505 115.64-116.0 n 很权威,09-03 15:39:00-09-03 15:39:01Very authoritative,
32/505 116.36-117.53 n 那老百姓可能不太了解。09-03 15:39:01-09-03 15:39:03The public may not be aware of this.
33/505 117.71-117.77 aaa 嗯,09-03 15:39:01-09-03 15:39:02Well,
34/505 118.01-121.01 n cyber gene 它到底是一个什么样的一个测试?09-03 15:39:02-09-03 15:39:04What is the cyber gene test?
35/505 121.68-124.08 aaa 其实它是一个那个 u c berkeley,09-03 15:39:03-09-03 15:39:05Actually, it's a u c berkeley.
36/505 124.26-126.16 n 美国的一个大学,09-03 15:39:03-09-03 15:39:05A university in the United States,
37/505 127.19-131.46 hp 然后一个实验室做了一他们的 leader 叫党宋。09-03 15:39:04-09-03 15:39:08Then a laboratory made their leader, whose name was Dang Song.
38/505 131.84-131.87 n 嗯,09-03 15:39:05-09-03 15:39:05Well,
39/505 132.28-135.34 n 这是一个非常著名的一个华人的安全专家,09-03 15:39:05-09-03 15:39:08This is a very famous Chinese security expert.
40/505 135.92-140.34 aaa 他其实也是我们对抗那个黑客大赛的前几年的顾问。09-03 15:39:06-09-03 15:39:09He was actually one of our consultants for the previous few years in that anti-hacking competition.
41/505 140.92-140.98 n 哦,09-03 15:39:07-09-03 15:39:08Oh,
42/505 141.28-144.6 n 那他是非常懂网络安全和黑客的,09-03 15:39:09-09-03 15:39:13He is very knowledgeable about network security and hacking.
43/505 145.18-148.41 n 所以他们做了一个测试集,09-03 15:39:10-09-03 15:39:13So they created a test set,
44/505 149.07-152.84 hp 就是真实的一些项目里面里面有些漏洞,09-03 15:39:10-09-03 15:39:13There are some vulnerabilities in real projects.
45/505 153.02-156.02 aaa 看看现在的 a i 大模型能不能自主找出来。09-03 15:39:11-09-03 15:39:14Can the current AI large models independently find it?
46/505 156.81-158.49 n 所以 cyber g 严格意义上来讲,09-03 15:39:13-09-03 15:39:15Therefore, cyber G strictly speaking,
47/505 159.46-163.51 n 准确的表达应该叫漏洞发现能力的测试榜。09-03 15:39:14-09-03 15:39:18The accurate expression should be a test list of vulnerability discovery capabilities.
48/505 164.16-168.83 hp 然所以刚才您说的他是用一些真实的漏洞去测试的对,09-03 15:39:14-09-03 15:39:19Therefore, as you mentioned earlier, he was using some real vulnerabilities to test.
49/505 169.33-171.07 aaa 就非常接近真实的场景的。09-03 15:39:15-09-03 15:39:18It's very close to real-life scenarios.
50/505 171.13-174.05 n 不是看起来说可能是我们一个啊比赛呀,09-03 15:39:16-09-03 15:39:19It doesn't seem like it was a competition, maybe just for fun.
51/505 174.23-178.45 aaa 或者是啊不是他其实是真实的一些呃漏洞漏洞机。09-03 15:39:19-09-03 15:39:21Or, or no, he is actually some real vulnerabilities.
52/505 179.06-182.84 n 那您觉得我们这样一个小小的一个团队,09-03 15:39:19-09-03 15:39:23So, what do you think of our small team?
53/505 183.46-183.52 n 嗯,09-03 15:39:21-09-03 15:39:22Well,
54/505 184.0-188.83 hp 怎么能拿下这样一个权威的 cyber 的一个第一呢?09-03 15:39:22-09-03 15:39:27How can I achieve such a breakthrough in the field of cybersecurity?
55/505 189.37-189.79 aaa 凭什么?09-03 15:39:23-09-03 15:39:23Why?
56/505 190.17-192.03 n 其实我觉得可能是运气吧,09-03 15:39:23-09-03 15:39:27I think it's probably just luck.
57/505 192.95-198.79 n 因为我们其实一开始并不是特别的重视这样一件事情。09-03 15:39:24-09-03 15:39:27Because we didn't really pay much attention to this matter at the beginning.
58/505 199.14-199.17 aaa 嗯,09-03 15:39:25-09-03 15:39:27Well,
59/505 199.55-203.11 aaa 只是上海有一家国家级的 a i 实验室,09-03 15:39:27-09-03 15:39:29There is only one national-level AI laboratory in Shanghai.
60/505 203.78-206.64 n 看到我们团队那写了篇文章,09-03 15:39:28-09-03 15:39:30I saw that our team wrote an article,
61/505 206.82-209.88 hp 想去追赶美国的这个 mis 这套系统,09-03 15:39:28-09-03 15:39:32To catch up with the US in this area,
62/505 210.39-212.37 n 所以他就联系我们就去打这个榜。09-03 15:39:29-09-03 15:39:32So he contacted us to make this list.
63/505 213.1-216.16 de 那呃当然吸引我的事情,09-03 15:39:30-09-03 15:40:06Well, of course, the thing that attracted me was...
64/505 216.4-224.04 aaa 主要是这我们都没用过美国的这个领先的这些能够替代超级黑客的没少斯这种模型。09-03 15:39:30-09-03 15:39:37The main point is that we haven't used any of the leading American models, such as those developed by DeepMind and OpenAI, which are capable of replacing human hackers.
65/505 224.5-226.54 n 所以我们没有机会没有机会看到。09-03 15:39:33-09-03 15:39:36Therefore, we have no chance to see.
66/505 227.03-229.73 n 但是呢这个他们就会参加这个榜单的测试,09-03 15:39:33-09-03 15:39:36However, they will participate in the test for this ranking.
67/505 230.64-233.04 hp 我们看到他们的分数是百分之八十三等,09-03 15:39:34-09-03 15:39:38We saw their scores were eighty-three percent,
68/505 233.04-234.3 n 于是八八八十三分嘛。09-03 15:39:37-09-03 15:39:39So, 88.83 points?
69/505 235.23-235.29 n 嗯,09-03 15:39:37-09-03 15:39:38Well,
70/505 235.9-238.24 aaa 那我们也想试一下,09-03 15:39:38-09-03 15:39:39We also want to try it.
71/505 238.48-241.46 hp 到底我们有没有那个追赶上他,09-03 15:39:39-09-03 15:39:42Do we really have the ability to catch up with him?
72/505 241.91-243.65 n 所以就做了这样一件事情,09-03 15:39:39-09-03 15:39:41So, I did this:
73/505 243.99-244.05 n 嗯,09-03 15:39:40-09-03 15:39:42Well,
74/505 244.35-245.25 aaa 没有那样的渠道,09-03 15:39:42-09-03 15:39:43Without that channel,
75/505 245.43-246.51 n 没有直接用的渠道。09-03 15:39:43-09-03 15:39:43No direct channels.
76/505 246.69-246.75 n 对,09-03 15:39:43-09-03 15:39:44Okay,
77/505 246.93-251.95 bg 所以我们其实并没有呃在这上面投入太大的精力。09-03 15:39:44-09-03 15:40:37So, we actually haven't put too much effort into it.
78/505 252.129-253.75 hp 因为我们在做我们自己的产品,09-03 15:39:45-09-03 15:39:48Because we are developing our own products,
79/505 254.38-258.76 aaa 所以这次测纯粹就是因为机缘巧合,09-03 15:39:46-09-03 15:39:47So, this test was purely a matter of chance.
80/505 259.34-267.07 de 上海这个国家级的一些实验室找我们我们就把我们的 honey agent 就交给他们他们去做测试。09-03 15:39:46-09-03 15:40:50We have some national-level laboratories in Shanghai, and we provide our honey agent to them for testing.
81/505 267.73-269.4 n 然后应该来讲,09-03 15:39:47-09-03 15:39:49Then, we should talk about...
82/505 269.64-272.1 n 第一次就拿到了九十六分的成绩,09-03 15:39:48-09-03 15:39:50I got a score of 96 on the first try.
83/505 272.28-272.88 aaa 百分之九十六。09-03 15:39:49-09-03 15:39:50Ninety-six percent.
84/505 273.41-276.88 hp 当然这个成绩最后经过他们的呃审核。09-03 15:39:49-09-03 15:39:54Of course, this result will eventually be reviewed by them.
85/505 277.12-279.83 n 所以在八月初的时候,09-03 15:39:50-09-03 15:39:51In early August,
86/505 280.13-284.34 aaa 我们是拿到了全球第三中国第一。09-03 15:39:51-09-03 15:39:54We have obtained the third place globally and first in China.
87/505 285.23-289.15 n 最近的一次呢我们用了最新的国产大模型,09-03 15:39:52-09-03 15:39:54Recently, we used the latest domestic large model.
88/505 289.61-291.83 n 然后这次分数应该是在百分之九十四多,09-03 15:39:52-09-03 15:39:55Then the score should be around 94%.
89/505 292.01-293.03 aaa 所以是个全球第一。09-03 15:39:55-09-03 15:39:58Therefore, it is the first in the world.
90/505 293.49-293.55 hp 啊,09-03 15:39:55-09-03 15:39:57Oh,
91/505 293.97-295.95 n 那这次我们用的是什么样的模型?09-03 15:39:56-09-03 15:39:59What kind of model are we using this time?
92/505 296.31-299.51 n 其实这个模型选择是 a i 实验室,09-03 15:39:57-09-03 15:39:59Actually, the model selection was made by a i lab.
93/505 299.75-305.3 hp 他们的选择他们选择了这个呃国产的这个质普的 g o m,09-03 15:39:58-09-03 15:40:02Their choice was this, a domestic product from Qum.
94/505 305.75-308.03 aaa 我们第一次打全球第三用的是五点二。09-03 15:39:59-09-03 15:40:05The first time we played against the third-ranked team in the world was with a 5.2 rating.
95/505 308.51-310.429 n 这次拿第一用的是五点三,09-03 15:39:59-09-03 15:40:03The first place was achieved with a score of 5.3,
96/505 311.17-314.17 n 但是实际上核心的用的 harness 用的是我们的,09-03 15:40:00-09-03 15:40:03However, in reality, the core harness used is ours.
97/505 314.6-314.84 hp 对吗?09-03 15:40:03-09-03 15:40:05Is it right?
98/505 315.02-315.56 n 对对对,09-03 15:40:04-09-03 15:40:04Okay,
99/505 315.8-317.4 n 我们的这样一个产品,09-03 15:40:04-09-03 15:40:05Our such a product,
100/505 317.52-319.26 n 或者我们这样一个核心的一个思路。09-03 15:40:05-09-03 15:40:07Or, one of our core ideas is this.
101/505 319.73-325.09 hp 为什么能够超越那么多全球顶尖的一个 a i 的巨头的产品呢?09-03 15:40:06-09-03 15:40:10Why can it surpass so many top global AI giants' products?
102/505 325.5-327.25 aaa 我总结的经验是啊,09-03 15:40:06-09-03 15:40:08My experience is that,
103/505 328.32-332.88 n 我们是把我们人类的这些黑客的经验毫无保留的,09-03 15:40:07-09-03 15:40:09We are sharing our human hacking experience without reservation.
104/505 333.82-335.56 de 然后整合到我们的 a 进的上面。09-03 15:40:08-09-03 15:40:34Then integrate it into our a.
105/505 335.99-336.05 n 嗯,09-03 15:40:08-09-03 15:40:09Well,
106/505 336.53-343.32 aaa 然后这里面嗯我觉得最主要的事情就是这个不光是成功的经验。09-03 15:40:09-09-03 15:40:13Then, I think the most important thing here is not just successful experience.
107/505 343.5-345.48 n 我们也把失败的经验告诉他们。09-03 15:40:10-09-03 15:40:13We also told them about our failures.
108/505 346.25-356.52 n 因为这个漏洞发现和任何一个嗯技术这种发现这种实验都有一个类似点,09-03 15:40:10-09-03 15:40:14Because this vulnerability discovery and any kind of technical finding or experiment has a similar point,
109/505 356.7-358.26 hp 就是尽可能的减少漏报,09-03 15:40:11-09-03 15:40:14Minimize the number of missed cases.
110/505 358.82-359.9 n 尽可能的减少误吧。09-03 15:40:14-09-03 15:40:15Minimize errors as much as possible.
111/505 360.44-365.29 aaa 所以我我觉得我们可能在那个把成功的经验告诉他们之后,09-03 15:40:14-09-03 15:40:17I think that after we share our successful experiences with them,
112/505 365.96-367.97 n 尽可能的减少漏保,09-03 15:40:15-09-03 15:40:16Minimize leakage,
113/505 368.44-370.48 hp 把一些失败的经验告诉他们,09-03 15:40:16-09-03 15:40:19Tell them some of your failed experiences.
114/505 370.6-371.62 n 尽可能减少误保。09-03 15:40:16-09-03 15:40:17Minimize misrepresentation.
115/505 371.8-374.19 n 在这方面可能我们发挥了一些作用,09-03 15:40:17-09-03 15:40:19In this regard, we may have played a role.
116/505 374.61-376.77 hp 您觉得最核心的是这一点是吗?09-03 15:45:19-09-03 15:45:23Do you think this is the most important point?
117/505 377.13-378.21 xss 应该来央视的,09-03 15:40:18-09-03 15:40:39Should come to CCTV,
118/505 378.59-380.75 aaa 现在这个分这个榜还可以看到啊,09-03 15:40:19-09-03 15:40:20Now, you can still see the ranking.
119/505 380.93-384.36 n 就是 open a i 的 g p t 是八十五分左右,09-03 15:40:20-09-03 15:40:24GPT-3 of openAI is about 85 points.
120/505 384.94-387.46 hp 安卓佩克的每首时在八十三分。09-03 15:40:20-09-03 15:40:24Android's peak is at 83%.
121/505 388.59-392.01 n 然后如果国产大模型直接去参赛的话,09-03 15:40:21-09-03 15:40:24Then, if a large Chinese model directly participates in the competition,
122/505 392.19-394.45 aaa 可能是在七八十分钟左右。09-03 15:40:22-09-03 15:40:24It might be around 7 or 8 minutes.
123/505 395.09-396.41 n 因为又加上我们这个 honeynes,09-03 15:40:24-09-03 15:40:26Because we have added this honeypot,
124/505 396.65-399.47 aaa 等于把人类的黑客的经验智慧告诉他完之后,09-03 15:40:25-09-03 15:40:27After telling the human hacker all of his experience and wisdom,
125/505 400.1-400.16 n 呃,09-03 15:40:26-09-03 15:40:26Um,
126/505 400.7-402.32 hp 能够达到九十分以上的成绩。09-03 15:40:26-09-03 15:40:30Achieve a score of 90 or higher.
127/505 404.38-412.32 n 我们得到的经验教训其实就是喂嗯有可能啊我们还真的能追赶上美国,09-03 15:40:27-09-03 15:40:32The lessons we've learned are that, yes, it is possible for us to catch up with the United States.
128/505 413.56-413.62 n 嗯,09-03 15:40:27-09-03 15:40:28Well,
129/505 413.98-416.08 aaa 但也不值得特别的骄傲。09-03 15:40:28-09-03 15:40:30But it's not worth bragging about.
130/505 416.2-418.53 n 因为这个榜其实还有另外一个榜,09-03 15:40:29-09-03 15:40:31Because there is actually another list,
131/505 419.01-420.77 aaa 大家很少有人去打。09-03 15:40:30-09-03 15:40:32Few people go to the gym.
132/505 421.61-423.65 hp 我觉得这个测试很重要的一点,09-03 15:40:31-09-03 15:40:35I think one of the most important points in this test is,
133/505 423.83-426.17 n 其实是告诉了很多人,09-03 15:40:32-09-03 15:40:34Actually, it told many people.
134/505 426.41-430.31 n 网络安全里面最本质的东西其实是漏洞。09-03 15:40:33-09-03 15:40:35The most fundamental thing in network security is actually vulnerabilities.
135/505 431.03-434.51 aaa 为什么网络安全的本质是攻和防的对抗?09-03 15:40:33-09-03 15:40:35Why is the essence of network security a confrontation between attack and defense?
136/505 435.71-440.69 n 但是所有的攻击的前提都是有漏洞的存在。09-03 15:40:34-09-03 15:40:36However, all attacks require the existence of vulnerabilities.
137/505 440.87-442.43 de 所以其实是两个榜,09-03 15:40:35-09-03 15:41:00So, in fact, there are two lists.
138/505 443.03-448.85 hp 一个是漏洞发现能力榜是 cyber g 另外一个是漏洞,09-03 15:40:36-09-03 15:40:40One is a ranking of vulnerability discovery capabilities, Cyber G. The other is vulnerabilities.
139/505 449.03-451.02 aaa 利用排行叫 explore gym.09-03 15:40:36-09-03 15:40:38Explore gyms based on rankings.
140/505 451.92-455.94 n 那在那个榜上面那其实是非常难的。09-03 15:40:37-09-03 15:40:39That's actually very difficult on that list.
141/505 456.48-456.54 n 嗯,09-03 15:40:38-09-03 15:40:39Well,
142/505 457.08-461.28 bg 啊然后一直没有太多的中国队去参加。09-03 15:40:38-09-03 15:41:23Then there weren't many Chinese teams participating.
143/505 461.82-465.48 aaa 我们其实那个榜不是全球第一,09-03 15:40:39-09-03 15:40:41Actually, that ranking isn't the top one in the world.
144/505 465.96-467.4 n 我们其实是全球第四,09-03 15:40:40-09-03 15:40:42We are actually the fourth in the world.
145/505 468.06-468.48 xss 全球第四。09-03 15:40:40-09-03 15:40:55Fourth globally.
146/505 468.84-472.44 n 但必须承认我们的分数其实距离第一还有很大的差距。09-03 15:40:41-09-03 15:40:45However, we must admit that our scores are still quite far from first place.
147/505 472.86-474.0 hp 在漏洞利用的时候,09-03 15:40:42-09-03 15:40:44When exploiting a vulnerability,
148/505 474.3-475.14 aaa 漏洞利用的时候,09-03 15:40:42-09-03 15:40:43When exploiting vulnerabilities,
149/505 475.32-479.04 n 那排在第一的是 g p t 五点五点六。09-03 15:40:43-09-03 15:40:46GPT 5.5 is the first one in line.
150/505 480.18-480.84 aaa 然后第二是 me,09-03 15:40:44-09-03 15:40:45Then the second is me,
151/505 481.8-486.12 hp 当然第一名和第二名之间都差了很多断崖式的领先。09-03 15:40:45-09-03 15:40:50Of course, there is a significant gap between the first and second place.
152/505 486.48-488.58 n 他的分数在两百九十三。09-03 15:40:45-09-03 15:40:47His score was 293.
153/505 488.82-491.82 aaa 我记得然后第二名其实只有一百五十七,09-03 15:40:46-09-03 15:40:48I remember that the second place was actually only 157.
154/505 492.06-494.7 n 我们的分数是在一百一啊,09-03 15:40:47-09-03 15:40:49Our score is 100,
155/505 495.18-497.28 n 但是这个分数可能他们还要再验证。09-03 15:40:48-09-03 15:40:52However, this score may still need to be verified.
156/505 497.88-501.66 aaa 所以您说是关键是从漏洞的发现到漏洞利用,09-03 15:40:49-09-03 15:40:52So, you're saying that the key is from discovering vulnerabilities to exploiting them?
157/505 501.96-504.84 n 漏洞利用的这个帮 exploit gene 这个榜,09-03 15:40:50-09-03 15:40:52The exploit gene is on the list of vulnerabilities.
158/505 505.32-507.66 hp 我们在中国已经是非常领先了吗?09-03 15:40:50-09-03 15:40:55Are we already very advanced in China?
159/505 508.26-511.27 de 其实我觉得在国内争领先意义不大,09-03 15:40:52-09-03 15:41:38Actually, I don't think that competing for the top position in China is very meaningful.
160/505 511.63-513.37 n 还是要去和美国的相比。09-03 15:40:53-09-03 15:40:54Compared to the United States.
161/505 514.09-517.09 aaa 我觉得虽然在漏洞发现上面能力方面,09-03 15:40:54-09-03 15:40:56I think that although in terms of vulnerability discovery,
162/505 517.27-520.21 n 我们是有国产大模型的加持,09-03 15:40:54-09-03 15:40:57We have the support of domestic large models.
163/505 520.57-523.03 n 然后我们能拿的比较好的名字。09-03 15:40:55-09-03 15:40:57Then we can get some good names.
164/505 523.15-523.69 hp 比如说第一,09-03 15:40:56-09-03 15:40:58For example, the first one is...
165/505 524.41-526.39 xss 但是在漏洞利用榜上面,09-03 15:40:56-09-03 15:41:25However, on the vulnerability ranking list,
166/505 527.11-528.49 aaa 它排的还不是很高。09-03 15:40:57-09-03 15:40:58It's not very high.
167/505 528.73-530.95 n 但然呃严格意义上来讲,09-03 15:40:58-09-03 15:40:59Strictly speaking, but
168/505 531.19-532.45 n 作为民用领域啊,09-03 15:40:58-09-03 15:41:00As for the civilian field,
169/505 532.69-535.63 aaa 嗯其实我们只需要做到漏洞发现就可以了。09-03 15:40:59-09-03 15:41:02Well, actually we only need to focus on finding vulnerabilities.
170/505 535.81-539.05 hp 只有一些关键的或者是特殊的部门,09-03 15:41:00-09-03 15:41:03Only a few key or special departments,
171/505 539.17-541.64 n 才会需要说漏洞利用能力。09-03 15:41:00-09-03 15:41:04This requires the ability to exploit vulnerabilities.
172/505 542.12-545.84 n 因为那是要把漏洞转换成攻击能力的啊啊,09-03 15:41:02-09-03 15:41:05Because that's about turning vulnerabilities into attack capabilities,
173/505 546.2-547.46 de 我们在民用领域不需要,09-03 15:41:03-09-03 15:41:38We don't need it in the civilian sector.
174/505 547.94-549.92 n 所以也很少有人关注这个事儿。09-03 15:46:05-09-03 15:46:07Therefore, not many people pay attention to this matter.
175/505 550.04-554.0 aaa 但那个我觉得是一个待解决的问题,09-03 15:41:04-09-03 15:41:07But I think that's a problem to be solved.
176/505 554.12-562.04 hp 就是那个才是考验网络安全这个能力的一个很重要的方面。09-03 15:41:05-09-03 15:41:10That's the most important aspect of testing a network security capability.
177/505 562.28-562.34 n 嗯,09-03 15:41:06-09-03 15:41:06Well,
178/505 563.0-563.06 n 对,09-03 15:41:06-09-03 15:41:07Okay,
179/505 563.3-566.18 n 因为真正如果说进入到攻防状态的话,09-03 15:41:07-09-03 15:41:10Because, if we truly enter into a state of defense and attack,
180/505 566.48-568.76 aaa 你还是虽然你不一定去进攻。09-03 15:41:08-09-03 15:41:10You may not attack, but you still have a chance.
181/505 568.88-570.99 n 但是你要知道人家他可能怎么进攻。09-03 15:41:08-09-03 15:41:10But you need to know how they might attack.
182/505 571.29-572.43 hp 对对对,09-03 15:41:11-09-03 15:41:12Okay,
183/505 572.55-573.81 aaa 我我不知道我的理解对不对。09-03 15:41:11-09-03 15:41:13I don't know if my understanding is correct.
184/505 573.99-574.71 n 对对对对,09-03 15:41:12-09-03 15:41:13Okay,
185/505 574.89-577.47 n 所以我觉得我们还是要抱着谦虚的一个心态,09-03 15:41:13-09-03 15:41:15Therefore, I think we should maintain a humble attitude.
186/505 578.19-581.07 hp 就是我们知道我们的优势在哪里,09-03 15:41:13-09-03 15:41:16We know our strengths,
187/505 581.25-583.11 n 我们也必须要知道我们的差距在哪里。09-03 15:41:14-09-03 15:41:16We also need to know where our shortcomings are.
188/505 584.61-586.83 aaa 那后续会沿着这个方向再去努力吗?09-03 15:41:15-09-03 15:41:16Will you continue to work in this direction?
189/505 587.49-588.27 n 这个看吧,09-03 15:41:16-09-03 15:41:17Here you go,
190/505 588.81-592.71 hp 当然我觉得我们的团队应该是有一点小不服气,09-03 15:41:16-09-03 15:41:20Of course, I think our team should have some dissatisfaction.
191/505 593.19-596.61 n 但这个东西呢光靠我们也是不行的。09-03 15:41:17-09-03 15:41:19But this thing can't be done alone.
192/505 597.21-599.25 aaa 因为要做到这样的一点,09-03 15:41:18-09-03 15:41:19In order to achieve this,
193/505 599.43-602.92 n 我觉得呃呃你比如说我们这次打榜,09-03 15:41:18-09-03 15:41:22I mean, for example, this time we're trying to rank.
194/505 603.76-605.5 aaa 那其实也是三方面的努力。09-03 15:41:20-09-03 15:41:21That's actually three aspects of effort.
195/505 606.22-608.5 n 那少不了国产大模型,09-03 15:41:20-09-03 15:41:23That's definitely going to be the Chinese large language models.
196/505 608.68-610.36 hp 它自己的基础能力。09-03 15:41:21-09-03 15:41:23Its own basic abilities.
197/505 611.08-611.5 aaa 第二个,09-03 15:41:22-09-03 15:41:22Second,
198/505 612.04-614.8 n 我们贡献了我们人类黑客 harnessnes agent,09-03 15:41:22-09-03 15:41:24We have contributed our human hacker harnessnes agent,
199/505 615.64-618.7 aaa 然后还少不了我们的这个有算力支持。09-03 15:41:23-09-03 15:41:25Then there's also our computing power support.
200/505 619.18-620.26 bg 就您说打一次榜,09-03 15:41:24-09-03 15:41:58Regarding your suggestion of creating a ranking list,
201/505 620.44-623.8 n 其实算力花销也是不小的对哦,09-03 15:41:24-09-03 15:41:27Actually, the cost of computing power is also quite significant.
202/505 624.4-629.74 hp 当然如当然这这些我觉得也不是什么什么最重要的阻碍。09-03 15:41:25-09-03 15:41:31Of course, these things don't seem to be the most important obstacles.
203/505 630.23-630.29 n 嗯,09-03 15:41:26-09-03 15:41:27Well,
204/505 630.65-631.61 aaa 大概要花多少钱?09-03 15:41:26-09-03 15:41:27How much will it cost?
205/505 632.21-633.17 xss 打一次榜的话,09-03 15:41:27-09-03 15:42:03If you're just looking to get on the list once,
206/505 633.47-637.01 n 大概可能耗费在十万或者十几万。09-03 15:41:28-09-03 15:41:31It might cost around 100,000 or more.
207/505 637.37-637.43 n 嗯,09-03 15:41:28-09-03 15:41:31Well,
208/505 638.089-641.21 aaa 那现在这个十万您您也要计较计较嘛,09-03 15:41:29-09-03 15:41:31So, now you have to consider this ten thousand as well?
209/505 641.39-643.07 n 或者说是想想还好还好,09-03 15:41:31-09-03 15:41:33Or, to put it another way, that's good enough.
210/505 643.19-644.15 hp 还好还好还好。09-03 15:41:32-09-03 15:41:36Okay, okay, okay.
211/505 644.33-656.57 n 但是我并不我其实刚才我讲的就是最吸引我的是我们了解一下对手和我们自己的这个中间的差异啊,09-03 15:41:34-09-03 15:41:39But I actually didn't say that. What attracted me most was understanding the differences between ourselves and our opponents,
212/505 657.05-658.37 aaa 其实并不是为了名次的。09-03 15:41:35-09-03 15:41:36Actually, it's not about the ranking.
213/505 658.79-658.85 n 嗯,09-03 15:41:35-09-03 15:41:36Well,
214/505 659.15-665.54 hp 啊我们没有为这个打榜做任何的这个优化或者调整啊啊,09-03 15:41:37-09-03 15:41:41Well, we haven't optimized or adjusted anything for this.
215/505 666.08-667.58 n 我觉得这样才是最真实的。09-03 15:41:37-09-03 15:41:39I think this is the most authentic.
216/505 667.76-667.82 aaa 对,09-03 15:41:38-09-03 15:41:38Okay,
217/505 668.18-669.62 de 直接把 agent 拿上去用。09-03 15:41:39-09-03 15:42:24Just put the agent up and use it.
218/505 669.8-670.64 de 对对对对对,09-03 15:41:39-09-03 15:42:06Okay, okay,
219/505 670.76-671.96 aaa 不是说研究透了。09-03 15:41:40-09-03 15:41:41It's not that the research is thorough.
220/505 672.02-673.1 n 你还说那个觉得那样,09-03 15:41:41-09-03 15:41:42You said that you think so,
221/505 673.34-675.08 n 正好那个创始人您很熟悉,09-03 15:41:41-09-03 15:41:43The founder, you are familiar with him.
222/505 675.26-678.98 hp 您有没有大家会觉得哎您是不是深入研究他们?09-03 15:41:42-09-03 15:41:47Have you ever thought that people might think you're deeply involved in their research?
223/505 679.04-682.88 aaa 然后针对他们有意识的去就是应试的那种打榜,09-03 15:41:42-09-03 15:41:46Then, they consciously choose to engage in the kind of cheating that involves answering questions on behalf of others.
224/505 683.78-686.48 n 我觉得会有人有这个质疑。09-03 15:41:43-09-03 15:41:46I think someone will have this question.
225/505 686.9-686.96 n 嗯,09-03 15:41:44-09-03 15:41:46Well,
226/505 687.56-688.28 n 是这样子的,09-03 15:41:46-09-03 15:41:48Here's the situation:
227/505 688.4-690.93 n 我呢特别反对一件事情,09-03 15:41:47-09-03 15:41:49I am particularly opposed to one thing,
228/505 691.05-695.13 aaa 就是应试当是这些东西是我们中国人特别擅长。09-03 15:41:48-09-03 15:41:50It is that we Chinese are particularly good at these things.
229/505 696.39-700.71 hp 你看我们自己办的那个对抗的这个黑客大赛。09-03 15:41:48-09-03 15:41:52Have you seen the hacking competition that we organized ourselves?
230/505 701.37-703.77 n 我从十几年前我就提了一件事情,09-03 15:41:49-09-03 15:41:51I have been talking about this for over a decade.
231/505 703.95-710.25 hp 就是啊不要打那种有确定答案的。09-03 15:46:51-09-03 15:46:56Well, don't make statements that are certain.
232/505 711.27-713.25 n 你像这个测试这个测评,09-03 15:41:50-09-03 15:41:52You are like this test,
233/505 713.55-718.17 aaa 本质上啊嗯它是本质上它还是有有答案的。09-03 15:41:51-09-03 15:41:53Essentially, it is essentially still an answer.
234/505 718.53-721.05 n 就是我我我一千多个测试机,09-03 15:41:52-09-03 15:41:55That's me, I have over a thousand test machines.
235/505 721.67-722.75 n 他是一定有漏洞的,09-03 15:41:53-09-03 15:41:55He must have a flaw.
236/505 723.0-724.05 hp 就看你能不能找出来。09-03 15:41:53-09-03 15:41:56It depends on whether you can find it.
237/505 724.76-727.1 aaa 这不是我希望的这种黑客精神。09-03 15:41:54-09-03 15:41:56This is not the kind of hacking I want to see.
238/505 727.84-728.62 n 我希望的是,09-03 15:41:55-09-03 15:41:56I hope that,
239/505 728.8-731.5 n 我希望的是那种真实环境下面的,09-03 15:41:56-09-03 15:41:57I hope it's a real environment,
240/505 731.62-732.82 aaa 我都不知道他有没有动,09-03 15:41:57-09-03 15:41:58I don't know if he has moved.
241/505 734.56-737.14 n 真是这个开放式的这个可能更吸引我。09-03 15:41:57-09-03 15:42:00I'm really drawn to this open-ended possibility.
242/505 737.85-738.93 hp 那现在有这样的吗?09-03 15:41:58-09-03 15:42:01Is there such a thing now?
243/505 739.94-740.78 n 只有在实战环,09-03 15:41:59-09-03 15:42:00Only in the simulation environment,
244/505 741.08-742.1 bg 只有在实战环境下,09-03 15:41:59-09-03 15:42:34Only in real-world environments,
245/505 742.22-743.84 aaa 所以我们这次最后一次打榜,09-03 15:42:00-09-03 15:42:02So this is our last time to vote,
246/505 744.02-746.6 n 我们不打算再继续做这个事情,09-03 15:42:01-09-03 15:42:03We don't plan to continue doing this.
247/505 749.48-750.32 n 真实的漏洞,09-03 15:42:01-09-03 15:42:03Real vulnerabilities,
248/505 750.62-753.22 hp 发现和利用可能更吸引我们。09-03 15:42:02-09-03 15:42:06The discovery and utilization of something may be more appealing to us.
249/505 753.94-759.48 aaa 所以其实打榜可能对您来说只是一个附带的嗯顺带的一个事儿。09-03 15:42:03-09-03 15:42:06So, ranking might just be an incidental thing for you.
250/505 759.97-763.48 n 我我觉得是知己知彼很重要的一个方法吧。09-03 15:42:03-09-03 15:42:08I think knowing your own strengths and weaknesses, as well as understanding the opponent's, is a very important method.
251/505 763.81-763.84 xss 嗯,09-03 15:42:04-09-03 15:42:14Well,
252/505 764.14-766.0 n 那实际上因为我们也一直在跟排,09-03 15:42:05-09-03 15:42:08Actually, it's because we have been following the trend.
253/505 766.18-768.7 aaa 因为我也知道我们前面也做了好几次访谈了,09-03 15:42:07-09-03 15:42:09Because I also know that we have conducted several interviews before,
254/505 769.07-776.02 de 直到您今年嗯几乎把所有的精力都投入到 a i 安全的研究。09-03 15:42:07-09-03 15:43:00Until this year, you have almost dedicated all your energy to AI safety research.
255/505 776.38-776.44 hp 嗯,09-03 15:42:08-09-03 15:42:10Well,
256/505 777.47-779.57 n 这个是我们真正去打榜的基础嘛,09-03 15:42:09-09-03 15:42:11Is this really the foundation for our ranking?
257/505 779.69-781.55 n 因为我们实实在在在做这个研究。09-03 15:42:10-09-03 15:42:12Because we are really doing this research.
258/505 782.01-785.51 aaa 那为什么您把就是几乎很多的业务,09-03 15:42:10-09-03 15:42:12Why do you have so many businesses, almost too much?
259/505 786.1-787.76 hp 短期的业务都停了?09-03 15:42:11-09-03 15:42:14Have the short-term businesses stopped?
260/505 788.37-790.83 n 我觉得我们必须接受一个事实,09-03 15:42:12-09-03 15:42:17I think we must accept a fact,
261/505 791.43-794.25 n 就是 a i 的发展速度可能远超我们国际。09-03 15:42:13-09-03 15:42:16The development speed of AI may far exceed that of the international community.
262/505 795.04-797.56 aaa 所以今年我们做了一个一个设想,09-03 15:42:13-09-03 15:42:15So this year, we came up with a plan.
263/505 797.74-802.95 hp 就是如果有一天 a i 可以在很大程度上超过人类,09-03 15:42:14-09-03 15:42:18If one day AI can greatly surpass humans,
264/505 803.7-804.48 xss 我们应该怎么办?09-03 15:42:15-09-03 15:42:33What should we do?
265/505 804.89-807.14 aaa 其实我们拥抱 a i 已经很长时间了。09-03 15:42:16-09-03 15:42:19In fact, we have been embracing AI for a long time.
266/505 807.26-810.06 n 因为我本本人是 a i 的悲观主义者,09-03 15:42:18-09-03 15:42:20Because I am an AI pessimist,
267/505 810.18-813.72 n 因为我觉得他替替代人类的可能性非常大,09-03 15:42:18-09-03 15:42:23Because I think the possibility of him replacing humans is very high.
268/505 814.28-817.58 hp 所以当然期待黑客的可能性也非常大。09-03 15:42:19-09-03 15:42:23Therefore, the possibility of hackers is also very high.
269/505 818.14-821.95 aaa 今年 a i 发展的速度严格意义上来讲,09-03 15:42:20-09-03 15:42:23In terms of the speed of AI development this year,
270/505 822.19-826.27 n 我们的感受是比去年前年都要来的更深远一些。09-03 15:42:21-09-03 15:42:23Our feelings are deeper than they were last year.
271/505 826.77-835.35 n 所以今年我们可以几乎可以肉眼可见 a i 一定会出现说可能要替代黑客。09-03 15:42:23-09-03 15:42:27Therefore, this year we can almost see with our own eyes that AI is definitely going to be able to replace hackers.
272/505 836.33-840.49 aaa 那这个事情既然我们认为它发生的可能性非常大,09-03 15:42:24-09-03 15:42:27Since we believe that this event has a high probability of occurring,
273/505 841.04-842.84 hp 那我们不如完全拥抱 a i 吧。09-03 15:42:25-09-03 15:42:28Then let's fully embrace AI.
274/505 843.5-844.82 n 所以我们做了一件事情,09-03 15:42:25-09-03 15:42:28So, we did one thing.
275/505 844.94-847.03 de 就是你看我们过去的客户是谁?09-03 15:42:27-09-03 15:42:51Who are our past customers?
276/505 847.27-848.55 aaa 就是这些巨头,09-03 15:42:28-09-03 15:42:29These giants,
277/505 848.73-848.91 n 华为、09-03 15:42:29-09-03 15:42:29Huawei,
278/505 849.09-849.27 hp 小米、09-03 15:42:29-09-03 15:42:31Xiaomi,
279/505 850.1-850.34 n oppo,09-03 15:42:30-09-03 15:42:31oppo,
280/505 850.46-850.52 aaa vivo,09-03 15:42:31-09-03 15:42:31vivo,
281/505 850.88-851.06 n 大疆、09-03 15:42:31-09-03 15:42:32DJI
282/505 851.3-851.72 n 支付宝、09-03 15:42:32-09-03 15:42:33Alipay,
283/505 852.14-852.44 hp 字节、09-03 15:42:33-09-03 15:42:34Bytes,
284/505 853.47-853.71 aaa 微信,09-03 15:42:33-09-03 15:42:34WeChat,
285/505 853.89-854.97 n 这些都是我们的客户。09-03 15:42:34-09-03 15:42:36These are our customers.
286/505 855.15-858.24 n 我们过去的能力是服务于这些巨头企业,09-03 15:42:35-09-03 15:42:38Our past capabilities have been serving these large corporations,
287/505 858.98-863.13 xss 如果 a i 能够发展到一定程度,09-03 15:42:37-09-03 15:43:18If a and i can develop to a certain extent,
288/505 863.31-867.46 aaa 比如说呃能够替代掉一部分人类的工作,09-03 15:42:37-09-03 15:42:39For example, being able to replace a portion of human work.
289/505 868.0-869.65 bg 那对于我们来讲是一种,09-03 15:42:38-09-03 15:43:13That is a kind of, for us.
290/505 870.54-871.8 hp 那可能比如说解放我,09-03 15:42:38-09-03 15:42:42That could be, for example, freeing me.
291/505 872.1-873.06 n 解放我们的,09-03 15:42:39-09-03 15:42:40Liberate us,
292/505 873.18-874.86 aaa 把我们的人力给节省下来。09-03 15:47:44-09-03 15:47:44Save our manpower.
293/505 875.53-876.13 n 那这样的话,09-03 15:42:40-09-03 15:42:41Then,
294/505 876.19-880.99 aaa 我们就有可能就能够帮助更多非巨头的这些企业提升安全能力。09-03 15:42:41-09-03 15:42:45We may be able to help more non-giants in these companies improve their security capabilities.
295/505 881.36-882.92 n 实际上美国已经在这么做了。09-03 15:42:42-09-03 15:42:45In fact, the United States has already done so.
296/505 883.38-883.44 n 嗯,09-03 15:42:42-09-03 15:42:45Well,
297/505 883.86-886.25 hp 所以从这个角度上来讲,09-03 15:42:43-09-03 15:42:47Therefore, from this perspective,
298/505 886.92-892.37 n 我觉得我们也有必要全面拥抱 a i 让看 a i 来替代我们黑客。09-03 15:42:45-09-03 15:42:49I think we also need to fully embrace AI, so that it can replace hackers.
299/505 892.61-898.25 aaa 然后把这个部分能力在在在在在应用到更多的这些行业里面。09-03 15:42:46-09-03 15:42:49Then apply this capability to more industries.
300/505 898.81-898.87 n 嗯,09-03 15:42:47-09-03 15:42:49Well,
301/505 900.26-902.9 hp 所以您觉得您现在做的这个产品,09-03 15:42:49-09-03 15:42:54So, what do you think about the product you're working on now?
302/505 903.44-907.28 n 对于我们普通人或者对于普通的中小企业它意味着什么?09-03 15:42:50-09-03 15:42:53What does this mean for ordinary people or small and medium-sized enterprises?
303/505 907.76-912.92 aaa 如果把我们团队定义成是这个相对来说比较顶级的黑客团队的话,09-03 15:42:50-09-03 15:42:53If we define our team as a relatively top-tier hacking group,
304/505 913.52-917.06 n 过去我们的人力其实只能服务于巨头。09-03 15:42:51-09-03 15:42:54In the past, our human resources could only serve giants.
305/505 917.36-917.42 de 嗯,09-03 15:42:52-09-03 15:43:00Well,
306/505 917.84-920.3 aaa 我们没有那么多人力可以去服务。09-03 15:42:54-09-03 15:42:55We don't have enough manpower to serve.
307/505 920.96-925.34 n 那比如说我们就相当于华为或者是微信,09-03 15:42:54-09-03 15:42:58For example, we are similar to Huawei or WeChat.
308/505 925.76-932.01 hp 或者是这些呃大疆以外的这些微为他们解决产品安全问题,09-03 15:42:55-09-03 15:43:00Or, for those DJI products outside of that, to address their product safety issues.
309/505 932.37-934.65 n 他们的安全外脑或者对对对对对,09-03 15:42:56-09-03 15:42:58Their safety brain or something,
310/505 935.25-938.67 aaa 我们本身没有那么多精力去服务于更多的产业。09-03 15:42:56-09-03 15:42:58We don't have enough resources to serve more industries.
311/505 938.97-939.03 n 嗯,09-03 15:42:59-09-03 15:42:59Well,
312/505 939.27-940.59 n 那有了 a i 之后,09-03 15:42:59-09-03 15:43:00After having AI,
313/505 940.89-944.13 aaa 我觉得我们可以把我们的能力赋能给 a i,09-03 15:43:00-09-03 15:43:02I think we can empower our abilities to AI.
314/505 944.61-948.51 n 让 a i 来去解决更多的产业的安全问题。09-03 15:43:01-09-03 15:43:02Let AI solve more industrial security problems.
315/505 948.93-950.25 hp 那就比如说普通人,09-03 15:43:01-09-03 15:43:04For example, ordinary people.
316/505 950.37-953.25 de 或者说是普通的这些中小企业都能够。09-03 15:43:02-09-03 15:43:47Or, in other words, even ordinary small and medium-sized enterprises can.
317/505 953.67-958.41 n 所以我们通过 a i 把我们的人力成本也下降了,09-03 15:43:02-09-03 15:43:04Therefore, we have also reduced our human costs through AI.
318/505 958.59-958.65 de 嗯,09-03 15:43:03-09-03 15:43:18Well,
319/505 958.95-960.7 aaa 然后把效率也提升了。09-03 15:43:04-09-03 15:43:05And the efficiency was also improved.
320/505 961.19-961.61 n 这样的话,09-03 15:43:04-09-03 15:43:05That being the case,
321/505 961.79-966.25 hp 可能更多的产业可能就能够用到一安全。09-03 15:43:05-09-03 15:43:08More industries may be able to use a safety.
322/505 966.78-970.56 n 所以我们的想法就是让更多的中国创新拥有 a i 安全力量。09-03 15:43:06-09-03 15:43:09Therefore, our idea is to enable more Chinese innovations with AI safety capabilities.
323/505 971.05-971.53 aaa 再小了,09-03 15:43:06-09-03 15:43:07Too small,
324/505 971.65-974.85 n 团队也也值得去拥有顶级安全能力。09-03 15:43:07-09-03 15:43:10The team also deserves to have top-notch security capabilities.
325/505 977.62-980.56 aaa 但是这个过程中可能还是挺艰难的,09-03 15:43:08-09-03 15:43:09However, the process may still be quite difficult.
326/505 980.68-980.98 hp 是不是?09-03 15:43:09-09-03 15:43:11Is it?
327/505 981.22-984.4 n 这就相当于你需要先投入在研发上面。09-03 15:43:10-09-03 15:43:12This is equivalent to needing to invest in research and development first.
328/505 984.86-984.92 de 嗯,09-03 15:48:11-09-03 15:48:15Well,
329/505 985.87-990.96 aaa 所以您今年觉得没什么收入没什么,09-03 15:43:11-09-03 15:43:13So, you feel that your income is not good this year.
330/505 991.14-992.51 n 但是目前没什么说。09-03 15:43:12-09-03 15:43:13But there's nothing to say.
331/505 994.08-994.14 hp 对,09-03 15:43:12-09-03 15:43:14Okay,
332/505 995.13-996.69 n 那你这个难免的吧,09-03 15:43:13-09-03 15:43:14You're probably right,
333/505 998.22-999.84 bg 因为经力都来做这件事儿了。09-03 15:43:14-09-03 15:43:55Because they have all experienced it.
334/505 1000.08-1001.28 n 做这个长期的事儿,09-03 15:43:14-09-03 15:43:16Doing this long-term thing,
335/505 1001.57-1003.25 aaa 我们全部精力投入在这上面,09-03 15:43:15-09-03 15:43:17We have put all our energy into it,
336/505 1005.63-1012.51 hp 其实就是把把我们的能力全部交给暂时没有收入,09-03 15:43:16-09-03 15:43:21Actually, it's about giving our abilities to those who currently have no income.
337/505 1013.47-1014.01 n 没有收入。09-03 15:43:16-09-03 15:43:17No income.
338/505 1014.79-1015.81 n 那您会焦虑吗?09-03 15:43:17-09-03 15:43:18Will you be anxious?
339/505 1016.47-1016.89 aaa 焦虑啊,09-03 15:43:18-09-03 15:43:18Anxiety,
340/505 1018.51-1022.59 n 但是还好你前两天正好说你那个体检报告,09-03 15:43:18-09-03 15:43:21But luckily, you mentioned your health check report two days ago.
341/505 1023.31-1024.87 n 新的体检报告出来了,09-03 15:43:19-09-03 15:43:21The new medical report has come out.
342/505 1026.13-1026.91 de 到年纪了吧,09-03 15:43:20-09-03 15:43:30I'm getting old,
343/505 1029.1-1031.14 aaa 十几项红的几乎没有。09-03 15:43:20-09-03 15:43:23There are only a few red items.
344/505 1031.26-1031.5 xss 好的,09-03 15:43:21-09-03 15:43:36Okay,
345/505 1032.82-1033.72 hp 去年还不是这样,09-03 15:43:22-09-03 15:43:27It wasn't like this last year.
346/505 1033.96-1035.04 n 去年还只有三四项,09-03 15:43:24-09-03 15:43:27Last year there were only a few items,
347/505 1035.94-1037.2 n 我也不知道今年怎么了,09-03 15:43:24-09-03 15:43:27I don't know what happened this year.
348/505 1038.46-1039.36 aaa 头发也掉了,09-03 15:43:25-09-03 15:43:27Hair also fell out.
349/505 1039.72-1040.56 aaa 头发也白了,09-03 15:43:28-09-03 15:43:28Gray hair,
350/505 1040.74-1042.18 n 然后各项指标都高了,09-03 15:43:29-09-03 15:43:30Then all the indicators increased.
351/505 1042.3-1044.16 n 不是三高也不是五高,09-03 15:43:29-09-03 15:43:31Not three highs or five highs,
352/505 1044.4-1045.24 hp 可能是七八高。09-03 15:43:30-09-03 15:43:33It could be 7 or 8.
353/505 1046.8-1049.74 aaa 当您嗯布局一个更长远的,09-03 15:43:30-09-03 15:43:32When you are planning a longer-term,
354/505 1050.28-1053.46 bg 或者说是一个更大的更终极的一个任务的时候。09-03 15:58:35-09-03 15:59:15Or when it's a larger, more ultimate task.
355/505 1054.24-1056.34 de 你要面对一个更终极的挑战的时候,09-03 15:43:32-09-03 15:44:06When you face a more ultimate challenge,
356/505 1056.82-1059.17 n 您您短期的要承受,09-03 15:43:32-09-03 15:43:35You, you will have to endure the short-term.
357/505 1059.71-1060.31 n 没有营收,09-03 15:43:33-09-03 15:43:34No revenue,
358/505 1060.97-1062.41 aaa 还有人没关系,09-03 15:43:34-09-03 15:43:35There are still people who don't care,
359/505 1063.01-1067.69 hp 这东西都是预料当中的事情啊,09-03 15:43:34-09-03 15:43:37This is all expected,
360/505 1068.11-1074.71 n 我觉得得得有一个呃认准一件事情的时候,09-03 15:43:35-09-03 15:43:38I think it's important to recognize that,
361/505 1074.77-1078.31 n 得有一个勇气做不计成本的事情,09-03 15:43:36-09-03 15:43:38It takes courage to do things without considering the cost.
362/505 1079.03-1081.23 aaa 先先就得投入啊,09-03 15:43:36-09-03 15:43:38First, you need to invest.
363/505 1082.08-1084.09 xss 所以现在还都是您自己投入,09-03 15:43:37-09-03 15:44:28So now it's all your own investment.
364/505 1084.78-1086.67 hp 投入又没关系。09-03 15:43:38-09-03 15:43:41It doesn't matter if you invest.
365/505 1088.38-1092.12 aaa 那您预计这个时间给自己有一个计划表吗?09-03 15:43:39-09-03 15:43:40Do you have a plan for this time?
366/505 1093.81-1097.87 n 我觉得这个时间表即使我想再长,09-03 15:43:39-09-03 15:43:41I think even if this schedule is extended,
367/505 1098.17-1100.75 n 我也不允许长是因为这个时代不允许,09-03 15:43:40-09-03 15:43:43I don't allow it because this era doesn't permit it.
368/505 1100.93-1102.19 aaa 因为 a i 发展的太快,09-03 15:43:41-09-03 15:43:42Because AI is developing too fast,
369/505 1102.77-1105.99 hp 所以我们只能啊越快越好吧。09-03 15:43:41-09-03 15:43:45Therefore, we can only do faster and better.
370/505 1106.93-1108.49 n 啊并不是经济压力。09-03 15:43:42-09-03 15:43:44It's not economic pressure.
371/505 1108.67-1110.29 aaa 我觉得因为是发展的压力,09-03 15:43:43-09-03 15:43:45I think it's because of the pressure to develop.
372/505 1111.54-1111.6 n 嗯,09-03 15:43:44-09-03 15:43:45Well,
373/505 1113.21-1114.05 hp 我们账上还有钱。09-03 15:43:45-09-03 15:43:48We have money in our account.
374/505 1115.27-1115.51 aaa 哎呦,09-03 15:43:46-09-03 15:43:47Oh,
375/505 1115.51-1118.25 n 我去是你不是没钱啊,09-03 15:43:47-09-03 15:43:49I don't think you have money,
376/505 1118.96-1119.38 aaa 没钱了,09-03 15:43:47-09-03 15:43:48I'm broke,
377/505 1119.44-1120.4 de 我我可以在家吗?09-03 15:43:48-09-03 15:44:08Can I stay at home?
378/505 1121.24-1124.09 hp 对你觉得这个成绩对你来说重要吗?09-03 15:43:49-09-03 15:43:52Is this grade important to you?
379/505 1125.44-1125.5 aaa 嗯,09-03 15:43:49-09-03 15:43:50Well,
380/505 1126.1-1129.1 n 这个成绩一定程度上是重要的。09-03 15:43:50-09-03 15:43:52This result is of some importance.
381/505 1129.28-1137.14 n 因为因为我们的目标就是希望说啊追赶美国的最领先的这种安全大模型。09-03 15:43:51-09-03 15:43:55Because our goal is to catch up with the most advanced security models in the United States.
382/505 1137.74-1141.7 aaa 现在通过成绩起码给了我们一定的信心,09-03 15:43:51-09-03 15:43:55Now, the grades have given us at least a certain level of confidence.
383/505 1142.3-1144.46 hp 就是有可能我们是能追上的,09-03 15:43:53-09-03 15:43:56We might be able to catch up.
384/505 1144.58-1146.65 n 甚至超过这个榜单本身。09-03 15:43:53-09-03 15:43:55Even more than the list itself.
385/505 1146.89-1149.24 bg 我觉得最大的意义在于哪里?09-03 15:43:56-09-03 15:44:32What do you think is the most important thing?
386/505 1149.42-1152.12 aaa 第一个让我们知道美国的水平在哪里。09-03 15:43:56-09-03 15:43:58The first thing we need to know is where the United States stands.
387/505 1153.22-1155.69 n 第二个事情其实是我觉得非常好,09-03 15:43:57-09-03 15:44:01The second thing is that I think it's very good.
388/505 1155.81-1156.71 n 对我们安全剂,09-03 15:43:57-09-03 15:43:59For our safety agent,
389/505 1158.0-1160.84 hp 外界对安全界理解有很多种。09-03 15:43:58-09-03 15:44:02There are many different understandings of the security industry.
390/505 1161.52-1169.6 aaa 但事实上我觉得你看我们这个最权威的网络安全能力就分为了漏洞发现能力和漏洞利用能力。09-03 15:43:59-09-03 15:44:02But in fact, I think that the most authoritative network security capabilities are divided into vulnerability discovery and exploitation abilities.
391/505 1170.06-1173.6 n 其实在这个榜单公布之前,09-03 15:44:01-09-03 15:44:03Actually, before this list was released,
392/505 1173.96-1178.13 n 很多人其实是不知道网络安全最核心的能力在哪里,09-03 15:44:02-09-03 15:44:06Many people actually don't know where the most core ability of network security lies.
393/505 1179.46-1180.3 hp 我们非常清楚。09-03 15:44:02-09-03 15:44:06We are very clear.
394/505 1180.48-1182.94 aaa 因为网络安全就是公和防的对抗,09-03 15:44:03-09-03 15:44:06Because network security is a confrontation between public and private,
395/505 1184.17-1186.87 n 但漏洞恰恰是所有攻击的前提。09-03 15:44:04-09-03 15:44:07But, the vulnerability is precisely what all attacks rely on.
396/505 1187.67-1190.37 hp 所以这是其中最关键的一个能力。09-03 15:44:07-09-03 15:44:10Therefore, this is one of the most important abilities.
397/505 1191.03-1194.47 aaa 他把这个东西定为定义为网络安全能力,09-03 15:44:07-09-03 15:44:09He defined this as a capability of network security.
398/505 1194.65-1196.69 n 其实是做了一个非常好的科普。09-03 15:44:08-09-03 15:44:10It's actually a very good science popularization.
399/505 1197.57-1204.43 de 也让我们让更多人可能知道我们过去一直坚守在漏洞这个领域。09-03 15:44:08-09-03 15:45:13Let's also make it known to more people that we have always been committed to the field of vulnerabilities.
400/505 1205.21-1206.68 n 这价值否则的话,09-03 15:44:09-09-03 15:44:10This is worth it otherwise.
401/505 1206.74-1208.54 de 大也不知道你们为什么发返现漏洞。09-03 15:44:10-09-03 15:44:53I don't know why you are posting about the rebate loophole.
402/505 1208.89-1211.92 aaa 其实这是网络安全非常重要的一个方面,09-03 15:44:10-09-03 15:44:12This is actually a very important aspect of network security.
403/505 1213.29-1214.01 n 而是您说的,09-03 15:44:11-09-03 15:44:12Instead, you said that...
404/505 1214.65-1218.22 hp 实际上为什么您这个小小的团队能够拿下第一?09-03 15:44:12-09-03 15:44:16Actually, why was your small team able to win first place?
405/505 1218.7-1218.76 n 嗯,09-03 15:44:12-09-03 15:44:13Well,
406/505 1219.51-1222.15 n 也是因为这些年的所有的积淀,09-03 15:44:13-09-03 15:44:16This is also due to the accumulation of all these years.
407/505 1222.57-1222.72 aaa 对吗?09-03 15:44:14-09-03 15:44:16Is it right?
408/505 1222.9-1224.52 n 就是在这个漏洞发现领域,09-03 15:44:14-09-03 15:44:18It was in this field of vulnerability discovery that...
409/505 1224.88-1230.44 aaa 是这是对其实我还是看最本质的东西。09-03 15:44:16-09-03 15:44:18This is the most essential thing I see in him.
410/505 1230.62-1230.68 n 嗯,09-03 15:44:17-09-03 15:44:18Well,
411/505 1231.51-1239.56 hp 第一个我觉得非常简单的就是我们的人是真的热爱这个东西啊,09-03 15:44:18-09-03 15:44:24The first one I think is very simple, that our people are really passionate about this thing.
412/505 1240.72-1241.26 n 没有热爱,09-03 15:44:18-09-03 15:44:19Without passion,
413/505 1241.38-1243.9 n 你是很难在一个行业里面做到第一的。09-03 15:44:19-09-03 15:44:22It's hard to be the best in an industry.
414/505 1244.46-1246.33 aaa 第二件事情是土壤,09-03 15:44:20-09-03 15:44:21The second thing is soil.
415/505 1247.32-1252.26 n 我我们这个土壤就是让我一直在讲我们公司的发展,09-03 15:44:20-09-03 15:44:25I'm here to talk about our company's development, and I want you all to understand that.
416/505 1252.319-1254.12 aaa 我一直让大家无边际成长。09-03 15:44:21-09-03 15:44:24I have always been helping people grow without limits.
417/505 1254.54-1255.98 n 你能做多牛就做多牛。09-03 15:44:22-09-03 15:44:25You can do as well as you want.
418/505 1256.8-1257.94 aaa 我在我们公司里面,09-03 15:44:25-09-03 15:44:26I am in my company,
419/505 1258.18-1260.58 hp 基本上你不用花太多时间在别的地方,09-03 15:44:25-09-03 15:44:30Basically, you don't need to spend too much time on other things.
420/505 1260.98-1261.85 n 你只有一件事情,09-03 15:44:26-09-03 15:44:27You only have one thing,
421/505 1262.17-1263.73 n 就是把你手头做到最牛。09-03 15:44:26-09-03 15:44:28Just do what you can.
422/505 1265.12-1267.43 aaa 那我觉得一个人喜欢,09-03 15:44:27-09-03 15:44:29I think, if someone likes you,
423/505 1268.25-1272.23 n 然后他又把所有的精力全部投入在上面。09-03 15:44:28-09-03 15:44:30Then he put all his energy into it.
424/505 1272.41-1276.9 xss 我们也不比别人说聪明很多或者怎么样子,09-03 15:44:29-09-03 15:45:36We are not much smarter than others, or any other way.
425/505 1277.02-1279.06 n 只是我们这儿没有任何的干扰,09-03 15:44:29-09-03 15:44:31There are no disturbances here.
426/505 1279.24-1280.68 n 你就做你自己喜欢的事情,09-03 15:54:34-09-03 15:54:35Do what you like,
427/505 1281.1-1284.67 aaa 你就朝着最牛那帮人去看齐。09-03 15:44:31-09-03 15:44:32Go to the most powerful people.
428/505 1286.29-1289.44 hp 追赶超过就是这样,09-03 15:44:31-09-03 15:44:34The way to catch up is like this,
429/505 1290.71-1292.33 n 结果就是自然而然发生的。09-03 15:44:32-09-03 15:44:34The result is a natural consequence.
430/505 1293.92-1294.82 n 之前也有一些,09-03 15:44:33-09-03 15:44:34There have been some before,
431/505 1294.88-1296.02 aaa 您说说您吹牛,09-03 15:44:33-09-03 15:44:34Tell me, you are bragging.
432/505 1296.44-1296.5 bg 嗯,09-03 15:44:34-09-03 15:44:50Well,
433/505 1296.92-1297.82 n 就有这个成绩,09-03 15:44:34-09-03 15:44:35With this score,
434/505 1298.41-1300.15 n 您拿到了这个赛 gym的第一嘛。09-03 15:44:35-09-03 15:44:37You got the first place in this gym competition, right?
435/505 1300.27-1300.33 hp 对,09-03 15:44:36-09-03 15:44:37Okay,
436/505 1300.51-1305.62 aaa 那对于可能原来呃对您有质疑呀,09-03 15:44:37-09-03 15:44:38For those who might have had doubts about it,
437/505 1305.8-1307.0 n 或者甚至有否定的人,09-03 15:44:37-09-03 15:44:39Or even people who are negative.
438/505 1307.12-1309.04 n 您觉得可能是一个很好的回应。09-03 15:44:38-09-03 15:44:41I think this is a good response.
439/505 1312.52-1315.07 hp 我可能到我这个年纪了,09-03 15:44:38-09-03 15:44:41I might be getting old,
440/505 1317.26-1318.939 aaa 可能我接受一件事情,09-03 15:44:39-09-03 15:44:42I might accept one thing,
441/505 1319.12-1322.56 n 就是我不是做给人看的,09-03 15:44:41-09-03 15:44:45I'm not doing this for the audience.
442/505 1323.49-1326.91 n 其其实是我给自己找一个这个结果吧,09-03 15:44:42-09-03 15:44:45Actually, I'm just trying to get this result for myself.
443/505 1328.1-1331.709 hp 就是别人质疑对我产生不了什么影响。09-03 15:44:42-09-03 15:44:46It doesn't affect me at all.
444/505 1334.08-1338.03 aaa 说实话任何时候都少不了阴阳怪气的人,09-03 15:44:43-09-03 15:44:45Honestly, there are always people who use sarcasm.
445/505 1338.51-1339.59 n 你真的把它当回事儿,09-03 15:44:46-09-03 15:44:48You really think it's important,
446/505 1339.83-1341.45 n 我觉得太影响人家心情了。09-03 15:44:46-09-03 15:44:48I think it's really affecting their mood.
447/505 1342.09-1348.98 aaa 外在的对您已经我们需要对需要和这些阴阳怪气的这个声音共存。09-03 15:44:47-09-03 15:44:50Externally, you need to coexist with the needs of others and these negative voices.
448/505 1350.02-1352.84 hp 那可能我们领跑不够多的时候,09-03 15:44:48-09-03 15:44:51That might be the time when we are not leading.
449/505 1353.26-1354.7 n 会一直听到这个声音。09-03 15:44:48-09-03 15:44:50I will always hear this sound.
450/505 1355.2-1356.94 n 当我们跑的足够远的时候,09-03 15:44:49-09-03 15:44:51When we run far enough,
451/505 1357.059-1357.96 aaa 可能就听不到了。09-03 15:44:50-09-03 15:44:52Maybe you won't hear it anymore.
452/505 1361.45-1361.87 bg 说实话,09-03 15:44:51-09-03 15:45:07Honestly,
453/505 1362.45-1363.92 n 听到大牛蛙团队拿下 cyber,09-03 15:44:52-09-03 15:44:54I heard that the Big Bull Frog team has won cyber.
454/505 1364.28-1365.72 n gym 全球第一的消息,09-03 15:44:52-09-03 15:44:54The news of the global first gym,
455/505 1366.26-1367.7 hp 内心相当的复杂。09-03 15:44:53-09-03 15:44:55Very complex inside.
456/505 1369.2-1369.68 aaa 这一年,09-03 15:44:54-09-03 15:44:54This year,
457/505 1370.1-1372.02 de 近距离跟踪拍摄大牛蛙团队,09-03 15:44:54-09-03 15:45:30Close-up tracking of the bullfrog team,
458/505 1372.58-1375.44 aaa 记录下他们不断挑战极限的能力,09-03 15:44:55-09-03 15:44:56Record their ability to constantly challenge limits.
459/505 1376.02-1378.46 n 努力坚持和高光时刻,09-03 15:44:56-09-03 15:44:58Effort and moments of glory,
460/505 1379.67-1381.59 n 也看到他们凭着热爱死磕、09-03 15:44:56-09-03 15:44:58I also saw them persevering through their passion,
461/505 1381.95-1385.11 hp 这一路走来所经历的沮丧、09-03 15:44:57-09-03 15:45:00The frustrations I have experienced along the way,
462/505 1385.73-1385.97 hp 煎熬、09-03 15:49:59-09-03 15:50:01Simmering,
463/505 1386.76-1387.06 aaa 脆弱、09-03 15:44:58-09-03 15:44:59Fragile,
464/505 1387.73-1391.01 n 焦虑所承受的外在的不在意、09-03 15:44:59-09-03 15:45:01The external indifference that anxiety endures,
465/505 1391.4-1391.79 n 不理解,09-03 15:45:00-09-03 15:45:01I don't understand.
466/505 1392.35-1393.72 aaa 甚至是质疑。09-03 15:45:00-09-03 15:45:01Even questioning.
467/505 1394.57-1403.66 hp 否定丹宁华特别喜欢 free solo 徒手攀岩这部纪录片为什么要无保护徒手攀登?09-03 15:45:01-09-03 15:45:08I don't like the documentary about free solo climbing by Dan Ninghua. Why do people engage in unprotected free solo climbing?
468/505 1404.42-1406.21 n 因为山就在那里,09-03 15:45:02-09-03 15:45:03Because the mountain is there,
469/505 1407.87-1409.55 aaa 你选择要追求极致,09-03 15:45:02-09-03 15:45:03You choose to pursue excellence,
470/505 1410.1-1411.9 n 就注定要面对恐惧。09-03 15:45:03-09-03 15:45:05You are destined to face fear.
471/505 1414.06-1419.83 n 其实大年华团队在去年刚刚实现了盈亏平衡。09-03 15:45:04-09-03 15:45:07Actually, the Great Year team just achieved profitability last year.
472/505 1421.33-1422.71 aaa 但是今年截止到目前,09-03 15:45:04-09-03 15:45:07However, as of today,
473/505 1423.29-1425.47 n 他们的营业收入几乎为零,09-03 15:45:07-09-03 15:45:08Their revenue was almost zero.
474/505 1426.28-1429.48 aaa 而大牛蛙的体检报告上已经不止是三高,09-03 15:45:08-09-03 15:45:10But the physical examination report of the big bull frog has not only three high numbers,
475/505 1431.42-1435.72 n 因为他们今年主动放弃了大量可以快速变现的业务,09-03 15:45:08-09-03 15:45:12Because they voluntarily abandoned a large number of businesses that could generate quick profits this year,
476/505 1436.16-1440.0 bg 把全部的精力都投入到 a i 安全研发中。09-03 15:45:09-09-03 15:45:58Invest all of your energy into AI safety research.
477/505 1440.91-1443.67 hp 直面 a i 所带来的颠覆性的挑战,09-03 15:45:10-09-03 15:45:14Confronting the disruptive challenges brought by AI,
478/505 1445.71-1450.54 n 到底是 a i 会取代人类黑客还是人类黑客,09-03 15:45:10-09-03 15:45:13Will AI replace human hackers, or will human hackers?
479/505 1451.2-1456.99 aaa 能够享服 a i 如果有一天 a i 真的失控,09-03 15:45:11-09-03 15:45:13If a i were to lose control one day,
480/505 1458.49-1464.11 n 还能不能有人类的力量能够站出来保护我们普通人?09-03 15:45:13-09-03 15:45:15Can anyone stand up and protect us ordinary people?
481/505 1465.54-1469.2 de 一家小小的民营的独立研究机构,09-03 15:45:13-09-03 15:45:53A small, independent research institute owned by a private company.
482/505 1469.84-1474.13 aaa 就要挑战一个人类共同面临的终极课题,09-03 15:45:14-09-03 15:45:16We are about to tackle a fundamental challenge facing humanity,
483/505 1475.04-1478.85 n 所承受的内外压力超出想象。09-03 15:45:15-09-03 15:45:17The pressures from both inside and outside are beyond imagination.
484/505 1481.14-1482.88 hp 其实我特别的感同身受。09-03 15:45:15-09-03 15:45:18Actually, I feel very similar.
485/505 1483.88-1487.3 n 去年下半年我选择做独立内容创作,09-03 15:45:16-09-03 15:45:20In the second half of last year, I chose to do independent content creation.
486/505 1488.14-1490.18 aaa 组建了志同道合的小团队。09-03 15:45:17-09-03 15:45:18Formed a team of like-minded people.
487/505 1491.04-1494.53 n 因为内心真正想做的是真诚的记录,09-03 15:45:18-09-03 15:45:21Because what I truly want to do is genuine recording.
488/505 1494.65-1496.11 aaa 这个时代中真实、09-03 15:45:20-09-03 15:45:21In this era, real...
489/505 1496.71-1497.01 bg 复杂、09-03 15:50:22-09-03 15:50:37Complex,
490/505 1497.55-1497.79 n 有趣、09-03 15:45:21-09-03 15:45:22Interesting,
491/505 1498.46-1499.18 n 有力量的人,09-03 15:45:22-09-03 15:45:23Powerful people,
492/505 1500.27-1505.19 aaa 我们同样选择了一条慢且艰难的道路,09-03 15:45:23-09-03 15:45:24We also chose a slow and difficult path.
493/505 1506.39-1508.43 n 坚持做深度原创。09-03 15:45:23-09-03 15:45:25Stick to doing in-depth original content.
494/505 1509.57-1510.11 n 截止目前,09-03 15:45:24-09-03 15:45:25As of now,
495/505 1510.59-1512.33 hp 我们全部都是自己投入,09-03 15:45:24-09-03 15:45:27We all put in our own effort.
496/505 1512.99-1514.01 aaa 没有任何的营收。09-03 15:45:25-09-03 15:45:26No revenue.
497/505 1516.9-1520.08 n 罗曼罗兰在约翰克里斯索夫里说过这样一句话,09-03 15:45:26-09-03 15:45:30Romano Lavranos once said, "In John Chrysostom's writings..."
498/505 1521.28-1525.18 n 真正的英雄绝不是没有卑微怯懦的时候,09-03 15:45:26-09-03 15:45:30True heroes are not without moments of weakness and timidity.
499/505 1525.72-1529.26 aaa 只是从来不会被卑微怯懦所战胜。09-03 15:45:27-09-03 15:45:30Never been defeated by humility and cowardice.
500/505 1531.0-1533.82 hp 或许我们做不了拯救世界的大英雄,09-03 15:45:28-09-03 15:45:33Maybe we can't become world-saving heroes,
501/505 1534.66-1541.08 de 但是每一个直面内心勇敢前行的人都能成为自己的英雄。09-03 15:45:31-09-03 15:46:06However, everyone who bravely faces their inner demons can become a hero.
502/505 1544.22-1548.06 aaa 如果你想更多的了解关于大牛蛙和团队的故事,09-03 15:45:31-09-03 15:45:35If you want to learn more about the story of Big Bull and his team,
503/505 1549.08-1553.52 n 请关注观看我们已经上线的系列深度对话。09-03 15:45:33-09-03 15:45:37Please pay attention to and watch our series of in-depth dialogues that have already been launched.
504/505 1554.66-1556.22 n 如果你喜欢我们的节目,09-03 15:45:34-09-03 15:45:36If you like our show,
505/505 1556.64-1559.52 hp 请关注点赞支持。09-03 15:45:35-09-03 15:45:38Please follow, like and support.