1/205 0.0-4.59 <font color=red>jd</font> 现在我们要聊的呢是这个成功学大师周文强被刑拘的这件事情啊，09-04 14:16:47-09-04 14:16:50<font color=blue>Now, we're going to talk about the case of success master Zhou Wenqiang being detained.</font><br>2/205 4.95-7.83 <font color=red>n</font> 我们会从他这个课程的商业模式开始说起啊，09-04 14:16:48-09-04 14:16:50<font color=blue>Let's start with the business model of this course.</font><br>3/205 7.95-11.79 <font color=red>de</font> 来聊一聊他这个课程内容到底是怎么一步步的越界的啊，09-04 14:16:49-09-04 14:17:38<font color=blue>Let's talk about how this course content is gradually becoming more and more advanced.</font><br>4/205 11.91-13.47 <font color=red>de</font> 包括他带来的一些危害啊，09-04 14:16:49-09-04 14:17:23<font color=blue>Including some of the harms he brought,</font><br>5/205 13.65-16.35 <font color=red>hp</font> 最后呢我们也会再聊一聊这个监管啊，09-04 14:16:50-09-04 14:16:54<font color=blue>Finally, we will also discuss the regulation.</font><br>6/205 16.53-18.87 <font color=red>n</font> 包括整个行业的规则是不是需要重建。09-04 14:16:51-09-04 14:16:54<font color=blue>This includes whether the rules of the entire industry need to be rebuilt.</font><br>7/205 19.11-19.17 <font color=red>aaa</font> 好，09-04 14:16:52-09-04 14:16:53<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>8/205 19.47-21.03 <font color=red>n</font> 那我们就开始今天的话题吧。09-04 14:16:52-09-04 14:16:55<font color=blue>Okay, let's start with today's topic.</font><br>9/205 21.39-22.53 <font color=red>jd</font> 咱们先来聊第一块啊，09-04 14:16:53-09-04 14:16:55<font color=blue>Let's start with the first piece,</font><br>10/205 22.65-24.45 <font color=red>n</font> 就是周文强课程的这个商业模式。09-04 14:21:55-09-04 14:21:57<font color=blue>This is Zhou Wenqiang's business model.</font><br>11/205 24.93-26.49 <font color=red>aaa</font> 咱们先来问一个最直白的问题，09-04 14:16:55-09-04 14:16:58<font color=blue>Let's start with the most straightforward question,</font><br>12/205 26.61-35.14 <font color=red>hp</font> 就是他这个课程是怎么从一个很低的价格一步一步的把你引到花非常高的价钱去买单的。09-04 14:16:55-09-04 14:17:01<font color=blue>It's how this course gradually leads you from a very low price to buying it at an extremely high cost.</font><br>13/205 35.38-40.18 <font color=red>n</font> 他这个最开始就是用那种一块钱或者说十块钱不到的这种课程，09-04 14:16:56-09-04 14:16:59<font color=blue>He started with courses that cost only a few dollars or less,</font><br>14/205 40.6-42.46 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后来吸引你进到群里面。09-04 14:16:57-09-04 14:16:58<font color=blue>Then attract you to join the group.</font><br>15/205 42.64-46.66 <font color=red>n</font> 他会给你讲一些这种嗯穷人为什么穷啊这种话题。09-04 14:16:57-09-04 14:17:01<font color=blue>He will tell you some things about why the poor are poor.</font><br>16/205 47.2-51.28 <font color=red>aaa</font> 他会不断的在短视频里面去讲他自己的这种逆袭的故事，09-04 14:16:59-09-04 14:17:03<font color=blue>He will constantly tell his own "reverse" story in short videos,</font><br>17/205 51.82-54.34 <font color=red>jd</font> 来刺激你的这种焦虑感和好奇心。09-04 14:17:00-09-04 14:17:01<font color=blue>To stimulate your anxiety and curiosity.</font><br>18/205 54.7-56.44 <font color=red>n</font> 对他确实很会抓人的情绪。09-04 14:17:00-09-04 14:17:02<font color=blue>He is really good at evoking emotions.</font><br>19/205 57.04-58.0 <font color=red>n</font> 进到群里面之后呢，09-04 14:17:02-09-04 14:17:03<font color=blue>Once I entered the group,</font><br>20/205 58.12-62.87 <font color=red>jd</font> 他就会不断的给你推他的这个两千八百块钱的这个汇拨合伙人。09-04 14:17:02-09-04 14:17:05<font color=blue>He will constantly push his two-thousand-eight-hundred-dollar partner to you.</font><br>21/205 63.17-64.67 <font color=red>hp</font> 然后等你成为了合伙人之后呢，09-04 14:17:03-09-04 14:17:06<font color=blue>Then, once you become a partner,</font><br>22/205 64.79-67.57 <font color=red>n</font> 你就可以被邀请去参加他的线下课。09-04 14:17:04-09-04 14:17:06<font color=blue>You can be invited to attend his offline class.</font><br>23/205 68.11-70.51 <font color=red>n</font> 这个线下课呢就是几千到几万不等。09-04 14:17:04-09-04 14:17:08<font color=blue>The cost of this offline course ranges from a few thousand to tens of thousands.</font><br>24/205 71.04-71.64 <font color=red>aaa</font> 再后面呢，09-04 14:17:05-09-04 14:17:06<font color=blue>Then,</font><br>25/205 71.7-73.62 <font color=red>jd</font> 他还有那种十几万的这种导师班，09-04 14:17:06-09-04 14:17:08<font color=blue>He still has a class with a tuition of tens of thousands of yuan.</font><br>26/205 74.17-75.79 <font color=red>hp</font> 就是他的这个社群也是分等级的。09-04 14:17:07-09-04 14:17:10<font color=blue>His community is also divided into levels.</font><br>27/205 76.19-79.73 <font color=red>aaa</font> 他就是用这种社群的氛围不断的去刺激你往前走。09-04 14:17:07-09-04 14:17:12<font color=blue>He uses the atmosphere of this community to constantly stimulate you to move forward.</font><br>28/205 80.15-81.53 <font color=red>n</font> 他还有这种推荐返利，09-04 14:17:08-09-04 14:17:10<font color=blue>He still has this referral bonus,</font><br>29/205 81.77-83.15 <font color=red>n</font> 就是你推荐别人来买课，09-04 14:17:09-09-04 14:17:11<font color=blue>Recommend to others to buy courses,</font><br>30/205 83.39-84.53 <font color=red>jd</font> 你还可以拿很高的返点。09-04 14:17:10-09-04 14:17:11<font color=blue>You can also get a high rebate.</font><br>31/205 85.22-85.76 <font color=red>hp</font> 他就是这样，09-04 14:17:10-09-04 14:17:13<font color=blue>He is like that.</font><br>32/205 85.88-88.4 <font color=red>n</font> 一步一步的把你引进这个高价的圈子。09-04 14:17:11-09-04 14:17:14<font color=blue>Gradually introduce you into this high-end circle.</font><br>33/205 88.82-93.32 <font color=red>n</font> 你觉得周文强这套课程模式最让人诟病的地方到底是在什么地方？09-04 14:17:12-09-04 14:17:17<font color=blue>What do you think is the most problematic aspect of Zhou Wenqiang's course model?</font><br>34/205 93.58-97.78 <font color=red>jd</font> 就是他其实呃最开始的这个低价课只是一个入口。09-04 14:17:13-09-04 14:17:15<font color=blue>It's actually just the initial low-priced course as an entry point.</font><br>35/205 98.02-101.48 <font color=red>aaa</font> 后面他的这个内容其实都是非常空洞的。09-04 14:17:13-09-04 14:17:15<font color=blue>The rest of his content is actually very vague.</font><br>36/205 101.6-104.29 <font color=red>hp</font> 而且他会加杂一些这种玄学呀，09-04 14:17:14-09-04 14:17:17<font color=blue>And he also adds some kind of mysticism,</font><br>37/205 104.589-105.55 <font color=red>n</font> 然后成功学呀，09-04 14:17:15-09-04 14:17:16<font color=blue>Then, success!</font><br>38/205 106.18-108.23 <font color=red>jd</font> 各种很夸张的这种包装，09-04 14:17:16-09-04 14:17:18<font color=blue>Various exaggerated packaging like this,</font><br>39/205 108.47-112.72 <font color=red>aaa</font> 把一个很简单的事情讲的非常的神乎其神。09-04 14:17:17-09-04 14:17:18<font color=blue>To make a simple thing sound incredibly amazing.</font><br>40/205 112.96-115.03 <font color=red>n</font> 让你觉得好像你只要跟着我学，09-04 14:17:17-09-04 14:17:20<font color=blue>Make you feel like if you just follow me,</font><br>41/205 115.21-116.11 <font color=red>n</font> 你就可以马上逆袭。09-04 14:17:18-09-04 14:17:20<font color=blue>You can immediately reverse the situation.</font><br>42/205 116.64-118.14 <font color=red>hp</font> 怪不得很多人觉得听着很上头，09-04 14:17:19-09-04 14:17:22<font color=blue>That's why many people find it very catchy.</font><br>43/205 118.56-120.78 <font color=red>jd</font> 但是没啥实际内容不错没错。09-04 14:17:19-09-04 14:17:21<font color=blue>But there's nothing substantive, which is fine.</font><br>44/205 120.96-129.41 <font color=red>n</font> 而且他就是嗯微信群里面和这个线下的这个会场都是一个非常高强度的这种情绪渲染。09-04 14:17:21-09-04 14:17:26<font color=blue>And he is, well, the WeChat group and this offline venue are all very high-intensity emotional atmospheres.</font><br>45/205 129.98-131.42 <font color=red>n</font> 然后高价客呢又不给你退，09-04 14:17:22-09-04 14:17:26<font color=blue>Then the high-priced customer doesn't give you a refund.</font><br>46/205 131.96-132.98 <font color=red>jd</font> 他背后的公司呢，09-04 14:17:22-09-04 14:17:24<font color=blue>The company behind him,</font><br>47/205 133.1-134.3 <font color=red>aaa</font> 又是那种打擦边球的，09-04 14:17:23-09-04 14:17:25<font color=blue>It's one of those that walks a tightrope.</font><br>48/205 134.48-135.88 <font color=red>hp</font> 又是这种诱导，09-04 14:17:24-09-04 14:17:27<font color=blue>Another one of these manipulative tactics.</font><br>49/205 136.06-136.72 <font color=red>de</font> 你去拉人头。09-04 14:17:25-09-04 14:17:41<font color=blue>Go and grab someone's head.</font><br>50/205 136.9-139.63 <font color=red>jd</font> 这种其实是对消费者非常不负责任的，09-04 14:17:25-09-04 14:17:27<font color=blue>This is actually very irresponsible to consumers.</font><br>51/205 139.69-141.07 <font color=red>aaa</font> 也扰乱了这个市场的秩序。09-04 14:17:26-09-04 14:17:28<font color=blue>This also disrupts the order of this market.</font><br>52/205 141.45-143.04 <font color=red>n</font> 你觉得这种周文强这种课程，09-04 14:17:27-09-04 14:17:30<font color=blue>What do you think of courses like Zhou Wenqiang's?</font><br>53/205 143.34-144.18 <font color=red>n</font> 给这个行业，09-04 14:17:28-09-04 14:17:29<font color=blue>To this industry,</font><br>54/205 144.68-147.61 <font color=red>hp</font> 给这个社会带来的最大的警示是什么？09-04 14:17:28-09-04 14:17:32<font color=blue>What is the biggest warning that this society has given us?</font><br>55/205 147.85-152.53 <font color=red>jd</font> 就是他其实用这种非常巧妙的这种价格的分层，09-04 14:17:29-09-04 14:17:32<font color=blue>That's because he's using a very clever way to layer the prices,</font><br>56/205 153.17-154.85 <font color=red>aaa</font> 然后用这种情绪的渲染，09-04 14:17:30-09-04 14:17:31<font color=blue>Then, using this kind of rendering.</font><br>57/205 155.36-159.07 <font color=red>n</font> 把本来一个应该是很理性的知识付费，09-04 14:17:31-09-04 14:17:34<font color=blue>Turn a knowledge-sharing platform that should have been very rational,</font><br>58/205 159.51-163.04 <font color=red>n</font> 做成了一个很像是这种精神消费的东西。09-04 14:17:31-09-04 14:17:34<font color=blue>It has become a kind of spiritual consumption.</font><br>59/205 163.51-167.12 <font color=red>aaa</font> 他把他的这个课程内容做的非常的虚，09-04 14:17:32-09-04 14:17:34<font color=blue>He made the content of his course very fictitious.</font><br>60/205 167.76-171.84 <font color=red>jd</font> 他就是专门去抓那些对财富很焦虑的人。09-04 14:17:33-09-04 14:17:36<font color=blue>He specializes in targeting those who are very anxious about wealth.</font><br>61/205 172.08-173.94 <font color=red>hp</font> 他让你觉得好像你只要跟着我学，09-04 14:17:34-09-04 14:17:38<font color=blue>He makes you feel like all you have to do is follow me,</font><br>62/205 174.24-174.96 <font color=red>aaa</font> 你就可以翻身。09-04 14:17:35-09-04 14:17:35<font color=blue>You can turn over.</font><br>63/205 175.71-179.35 <font color=red>n</font> 其实他这个模式背后是有很多不合规的地方，09-04 14:17:35-09-04 14:17:38<font color=blue>Actually, there are many non-compliant aspects behind this pattern.</font><br>64/205 179.47-183.14 <font color=red>bg</font> 也让很多人陷入了这种致富的幻觉当中。09-04 14:17:36-09-04 14:18:28<font color=blue>This also leads many people to fall into the illusion of getting rich.</font><br>65/205 183.63-186.92 <font color=red>n</font> 所以这个也是给整个行业敲响了警钟，09-04 14:17:37-09-04 14:17:40<font color=blue>Therefore, this also serves as a warning to the entire industry.</font><br>66/205 187.22-191.37 <font color=red>aaa</font> 就是怎么才能够真正的去规范这个知识付费的这个边界。09-04 14:17:38-09-04 14:17:39<font color=blue>How to truly regulate the boundary of knowledge payment.</font><br>67/205 191.61-196.41 <font color=red>jd</font> 那咱们接下来的这个讨论就聚焦在他的这个课程内容到底是怎么一步步越界的。09-04 14:17:38-09-04 14:17:41<font color=blue>So, our next discussion will focus on how the course content gradually crosses the boundary.</font><br>68/205 196.53-196.59 <font color=red>hp</font> 嗯，09-04 14:17:39-09-04 14:17:41<font color=blue>Well,</font><br>69/205 196.88-197.12 <font color=red>n</font> 好吧，09-04 14:17:40-09-04 14:17:40<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>70/205 197.3-198.32 <font color=red>de</font> 咱们就想请教一下，09-04 14:17:41-09-04 14:18:17<font color=blue>We would like to ask for your advice.</font><br>71/205 198.38-203.4 <font color=red>aaa</font> 就是他的这个财商课是怎么从本来应该是一个讲财富，09-04 14:17:41-09-04 14:17:44<font color=blue>It's about how this finance class, which should have been all about wealth,</font><br>72/205 203.58-204.42 <font color=red>n</font> 讲投资的课，09-04 14:17:42-09-04 14:17:44<font color=blue>Give a lecture on investment.</font><br>73/205 204.78-206.46 <font color=red>n</font> 变成了一个传播迷信的课。09-04 14:17:43-09-04 14:17:44<font color=blue>Became a lesson that spread superstition.</font><br>74/205 206.76-211.89 <font color=red>de</font> 他其实一开始就是把这个穷爸爸富爸爸的那一套重新包装了一下，09-04 14:17:44-09-04 14:18:35<font color=blue>Actually, he was just repackaging the "Rich Dad Poor Dad" concept.</font><br>75/205 212.37-214.53 <font color=red>jd</font> 变成了他的这个所谓的道法术气。09-04 14:17:44-09-04 14:17:46<font color=blue>It became his so-called Daoist magic and qi.</font><br>76/205 215.27-219.77 <font color=red>hp</font> 然后这个道呢他其实讲来讲去就慢慢的开始讲一些什么宇宙的规律啊，09-04 14:17:45-09-04 14:17:50<font color=blue>Then, this path actually started to talk about some of the laws of the universe.</font><br>77/205 220.46-222.98 <font color=red>hp</font> 开始讲一些这种你要开悟啊，09-04 14:22:47-09-04 14:22:50<font color=blue>Let's talk about how to achieve enlightenment,</font><br>78/205 223.28-224.18 <font color=red>n</font> 你要觉醒啊，09-04 14:17:46-09-04 14:17:47<font color=blue>Wake up,</font><br>79/205 224.36-226.46 <font color=red>aaa</font> 这种很玄乎的东西就越讲越虚。09-04 14:17:47-09-04 14:17:50<font color=blue>This kind of stuff is getting more and more esoteric, the more you talk about it.</font><br>80/205 226.97-227.0 <font color=red>n</font> 对，09-04 14:17:48-09-04 14:17:48<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>81/205 227.18-228.38 <font color=red>xss</font> 就完全不是在讲理财了。09-04 14:17:49-09-04 14:19:45<font color=blue>It's not about finance at all.</font><br>82/205 228.62-228.68 <font color=red>jd</font> 对，09-04 14:17:49-09-04 14:17:50<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>83/205 228.86-229.28 <font color=red>n</font> 没错没错。09-04 14:17:50-09-04 14:17:53<font color=blue>That's right, that's right.</font><br>84/205 229.62-232.5 <font color=red>n</font> 然后呢后面就开始讲什么呃家族业力啊，09-04 14:17:51-09-04 14:17:53<font color=blue>Then, it starts to talk about family legacy.</font><br>85/205 232.74-233.64 <font color=red>jd</font> 就是你之所以穷，09-04 14:17:52-09-04 14:17:53<font color=blue>That's why you're poor.</font><br>86/205 233.82-235.56 <font color=red>hp</font> 是因为你前世没有积德呀，09-04 14:17:52-09-04 14:17:56<font color=blue>Because you didn't accumulate good karma in your previous life.</font><br>87/205 236.07-237.98 <font color=red>aaa</font> 你要怎么样宵夜呀，09-04 14:17:53-09-04 14:17:55<font color=blue>What do you want for a late-night snack?</font><br>88/205 238.1-239.0 <font color=red>n</font> 你要调频啊，09-04 14:17:54-09-04 14:17:55<font color=blue>You want to tune?</font><br>89/205 239.24-241.54 <font color=red>jd</font> 你要去做一些这种仪式啊，09-04 14:17:55-09-04 14:17:56<font color=blue>You want to do some kind of ritual,</font><br>90/205 241.6-243.76 <font color=red>n</font> 比如他带学员去什么秦始皇陵啊，09-04 14:17:55-09-04 14:17:59<font color=blue>For example, he took his students to the tomb of Emperor Qin Shi Huang.</font><br>91/205 244.21-246.07 <font color=red>aaa</font> 去所谓的能量厂去朝拜啊，09-04 14:17:56-09-04 14:17:58<font color=blue>Go to the so-called power plant for a pilgrimage.</font><br>92/205 246.55-253.1 <font color=red>n</font> 就他其实已经完全变成了一个用这种玄学的东西在取代真正的财商教育。09-04 14:17:57-09-04 14:18:03<font color=blue>In fact, he has completely turned into someone who uses this kind of pseudo-scientific knowledge to replace genuine financial education.</font><br>93/205 253.45-257.29 <font color=red>hp</font> 就是他这些课程内容到底是怎么给学员带来伤害的？09-04 14:17:58-09-04 14:18:01<font color=blue>How did these courses cause harm to the students?</font><br>94/205 257.74-260.56 <font color=red>jd</font> 就是他把成功非常的简单化啊，09-04 14:17:58-09-04 14:18:00<font color=blue>He simply oversimplified success.</font><br>95/205 260.68-262.66 <font color=red>aaa</font> 就是你只要跟我学你就可以翻身，09-04 14:17:59-09-04 14:18:02<font color=blue>Just keep learning from me, and you'll be able to turn things around.</font><br>96/205 263.23-264.61 <font color=red>n</font> 然后把这个风险啊，09-04 14:18:00-09-04 14:18:02<font color=blue>Then, let's address this risk.</font><br>97/205 264.85-269.16 <font color=red>jd</font> 把这个你要真正的去理财的一些知识全部都淡化。09-04 14:18:01-09-04 14:18:03<font color=blue>Eliminate all the knowledge you need to actually manage your finances.</font><br>98/205 269.52-272.81 <font color=red>hp</font> 让你很多人就是盲目冲动的去买课。09-04 14:18:02-09-04 14:18:05<font color=blue>It makes many people blindly and impulsively buy courses.</font><br>99/205 273.35-276.63 <font color=red>aaa</font> 甚至有的人就是把自己的养老钱都搭进去了，09-04 14:18:03-09-04 14:18:04<font color=blue>Some people even spend their retirement savings.</font><br>100/205 276.94-278.5 <font color=red>n</font> 就是后果其实很严重的对，09-04 14:18:03-09-04 14:18:05<font color=blue>The consequences are actually very serious,</font><br>101/205 278.68-279.22 <font color=red>n</font> 没错没错。09-04 14:18:04-09-04 14:18:06<font color=blue>That's right, that's right.</font><br>102/205 279.6-281.76 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后现场又是那种极度的情绪化，09-04 14:18:05-09-04 14:18:06<font color=blue>Then the scene was filled with extreme emotions.</font><br>103/205 282.52-283.36 <font color=red>aaa</font> 又没收手机，09-04 14:18:05-09-04 14:18:07<font color=blue>Didn't confiscate the phone,</font><br>104/205 283.66-284.98 <font color=red>n</font> 又有托在带节奏，09-04 14:18:06-09-04 14:18:07<font color=blue>Again, the beat is there.</font><br>105/205 285.22-287.69 <font color=red>hp</font> 让你觉得好像你不跟着他做，09-04 14:18:07-09-04 14:18:11<font color=blue>You feel like you're not following him.</font><br>106/205 287.93-288.65 <font color=red>n</font> 就是你错了，09-04 14:18:08-09-04 14:18:09<font color=blue>You are wrong.</font><br>107/205 288.95-290.57 <font color=red>jd</font> 你失败了就是你自己的问题。09-04 14:18:08-09-04 14:18:10<font color=blue>It's your own fault if you fail.</font><br>108/205 291.3-293.28 <font color=red>aaa</font> 最后你不但没学到什么有用的东西，09-04 14:18:09-09-04 14:18:12<font color=blue>In the end, you not only didn't learn anything useful,</font><br>109/205 293.7-296.93 <font color=red>n</font> 你还可能陷入这种呃财产的损失，09-04 14:18:10-09-04 14:18:13<font color=blue>You may also fall into the trap of losing property.</font><br>110/205 297.17-298.01 <font color=red>n</font> 又退费无门，09-04 14:18:11-09-04 14:18:12<font color=blue>Still no refund,</font><br>111/205 298.25-300.02 <font color=red>jd</font> 又被他操控了你的精神，09-04 14:18:12-09-04 14:18:13<font color=blue>He has manipulated your mind again,</font><br>112/205 300.2-302.2 <font color=red>aaa</font> 让你觉得你自己就是不行，09-04 14:18:13-09-04 14:18:15<font color=blue>Make you feel like you're not good enough.</font><br>113/205 302.5-308.82 <font color=red>n</font> 就是你陷入这种焦虑和无助周文强这种把财商课和这种玄学的东西混在一起，09-04 14:18:14-09-04 14:18:21<font color=blue>It's like you get stuck in this cycle of anxiety and helplessness. For example, Wang Chong, who mixes business acumen with these kinds of esoteric things...</font><br>114/205 309.35-311.3 <font color=red>n</font> 他到底是踩了哪些法律的红线，09-04 14:18:14-09-04 14:18:16<font color=blue>What specific laws did he violate?</font><br>115/205 311.72-313.19 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后又给社会带来哪些麻烦？09-04 14:18:15-09-04 14:18:17<font color=blue>What further problems does it bring to society?</font><br>116/205 313.64-316.4 <font color=red>hp</font> 就是他没有任何的这种证券投资的资质啊，09-04 14:18:16-09-04 14:18:19<font color=blue>He has no qualifications for investing in securities.</font><br>117/205 316.58-319.4 <font color=red>aaa</font> 然后他还在课程里面去推荐这种高风险的理财。09-04 14:18:17-09-04 14:18:19<font color=blue>Then he was still recommending high-risk investments in class.</font><br>118/205 320.3-322.72 <font color=red>n</font> 他就是直接就是违反了证券法。09-04 14:18:17-09-04 14:18:19<font color=blue>He directly violated the Securities Law.</font><br>119/205 323.39-324.83 <font color=red>jd</font> 他用这种改命啊、09-04 14:18:18-09-04 14:18:20<font color=blue>He's trying to change his destiny.</font><br>120/205 325.19-327.77 <font color=red>de</font> 宵夜啊这种话术去诱导你买课。09-04 14:18:19-09-04 14:19:13<font color=blue>This is a sales tactic: "Let's get some late-night snacks."</font><br>121/205 328.58-330.14 <font color=red>aaa</font> 他已经不是说这种虚假宣传了，09-04 14:18:20-09-04 14:18:21<font color=blue>He has stopped making such false claims.</font><br>122/205 330.26-333.87 <font color=red>hp</font> 他就是属于利用迷信去扰乱公共秩序。09-04 14:18:20-09-04 14:18:24<font color=blue>He is the kind of person who uses superstition to disrupt public order.</font><br>123/205 334.41-341.06 <font color=red>n</font> 他这种东西又很容易让一些辨别力不强的人嗯陷进去啊，09-04 14:18:21-09-04 14:18:26<font color=blue>This kind of thing is also very easy for some people who don't have strong discernment to fall into.</font><br>124/205 341.18-343.34 <font color=red>jd</font> 就是对整个社会的这种信任啊，09-04 14:18:22-09-04 14:18:24<font color=blue>It's about the trust in the entire society.</font><br>125/205 343.58-345.98 <font color=red>n</font> 对整个社会的这种治理啊都是一种伤害。09-04 14:18:23-09-04 14:18:26<font color=blue>This kind of governance for the whole society is a harm.</font><br>126/205 346.31-348.59 <font color=red>aaa</font> 所以他是必须要受到法律的追究的，09-04 14:18:23-09-04 14:18:25<font color=blue>Therefore, he must be held accountable by law.</font><br>127/205 348.71-349.31 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后咱们来聊。09-04 14:18:24-09-04 14:18:25<font color=blue>Then let's talk.</font><br>128/205 349.43-350.38 <font color=red>hp</font> 第三部分啊，09-04 14:18:25-09-04 14:18:27<font color=blue>Third part,</font><br>129/205 350.56-353.62 <font color=red>aaa</font> 咱们来聊一聊这个监管和行业规则的重建。09-04 14:18:26-09-04 14:18:28<font color=blue>Let's talk about rebuilding regulation and industry rules.</font><br>130/205 354.01-354.25 <font color=red>jd</font> 好吧？09-04 14:18:27-09-04 14:18:27<font color=blue>Okay?</font><br>131/205 354.37-354.43 <font color=red>n</font> 好，09-04 14:18:27-09-04 14:18:28<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>132/205 354.73-356.23 <font color=red>n</font> 咱们来问一个比较现实的问题啊，09-04 14:18:28-09-04 14:18:30<font color=blue>Let's talk about a more realistic question,</font><br>133/205 356.59-360.36 <font color=red>hp</font> 就现在这个知识付费行业的监管最难的地方到底在哪儿？09-04 14:18:29-09-04 14:18:34<font color=blue>What are the most difficult aspects of regulating the current knowledge-sharing industry?</font><br>134/205 360.62-360.65 <font color=red>jd</font> 嗯，09-04 14:18:30-09-04 14:18:30<font color=blue>Well,</font><br>135/205 361.01-365.699 <font color=red>aaa</font> 我觉得现在最大的难题是在于这个短视频和支付费，09-04 14:18:31-09-04 14:18:33<font color=blue>I think the biggest problem now is this short video and payment fees.</font><br>136/205 365.82-368.44 <font color=red>n</font> 它是一个跨很多领域的一个东西。09-04 14:18:31-09-04 14:18:33<font color=blue>It is a thing that spans many fields.</font><br>137/205 368.62-370.48 <font color=red>bg</font> 对它既有可能是属于教育，09-04 14:18:32-09-04 14:19:05<font color=blue>It could be related to education,</font><br>138/205 371.11-373.74 <font color=red>n</font> 也有可能是属于呃网络服务，09-04 14:18:33-09-04 14:18:35<font color=blue>It could also be related to a network service,</font><br>139/205 374.32-375.28 <font color=red>jd</font> 甚至是属于广告。09-04 14:18:34-09-04 14:18:35<font color=blue>Even if it's for advertising.</font><br>140/205 375.98-377.36 <font color=red>n</font> 那你这个东西到底归谁管，09-04 14:18:34-09-04 14:18:36<font color=blue>Who is in charge of this thing?</font><br>141/205 378.03-379.23 <font color=red>aaa</font> 其实经常是说不清楚的。09-04 14:18:35-09-04 14:18:37<font color=blue>Actually, it's often difficult to explain.</font><br>142/205 379.64-382.1 <font color=red>bg</font> 然后再加上现在这个市场准入门槛又极低，09-04 14:23:37-09-04 14:24:20<font color=blue>Then, combined with the extremely low market entry threshold now,</font><br>143/205 383.08-386.33 <font color=red>hp</font> 所以就导致了什么样的人都可以来分一杯羹。09-04 14:18:37-09-04 14:18:42<font color=blue>Therefore, it led to the situation where anyone could come and share in the profits.</font><br>144/205 386.88-389.5 <font color=red>jd</font> 那你想要去规范它就很难听起来，09-04 14:18:37-09-04 14:18:40<font color=blue>Then it sounds like you want to regulate it, which is difficult.</font><br>145/205 389.62-390.76 <font color=red>de</font> 就是大家都可以钻空子。09-04 14:18:39-09-04 14:19:00<font color=blue>Everyone can find loopholes.</font><br>146/205 391.09-391.15 <font color=red>n</font> 对，09-04 14:18:39-09-04 14:18:40<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>147/205 391.39-393.31 <font color=red>aaa</font> 而且就是这个内容它有五花八门，09-04 14:18:40-09-04 14:18:41<font color=blue>And this content is diverse,</font><br>148/205 393.49-395.47 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后很多都是靠包装，09-04 14:18:41-09-04 14:18:42<font color=blue>Then many of them rely on packaging.</font><br>149/205 395.71-396.31 <font color=red>n</font> 靠卖情绪。09-04 14:18:42-09-04 14:18:43<font color=blue>By selling emotions.</font><br>150/205 397.0-401.72 <font color=red>n</font> 你这个平台的审核又很难跟上他的这个更新的速度。09-04 14:18:43-09-04 14:18:45<font color=blue>The review process on this platform is difficult to keep up with the speed of his updates.</font><br>151/205 401.96-402.92 <font color=red>aaa</font> 很多平台为了流量，09-04 14:18:43-09-04 14:18:45<font color=blue>Many platforms are for traffic,</font><br>152/205 402.98-405.08 <font color=red>hp</font> 他也会睁一只眼闭一只眼。09-04 14:18:44-09-04 14:18:47<font color=blue>He will also turn a blind eye.</font><br>153/205 405.52-407.44 <font color=red>jd</font> 再加上这个线上的这种交易，09-04 14:18:45-09-04 14:18:46<font color=blue>In addition to this online transaction,</font><br>154/205 408.19-410.59 <font color=red>n</font> 很容易就让这个责任主体引身。09-04 14:18:46-09-04 14:18:48<font color=blue>It's easy to make this entity take responsibility.</font><br>155/205 411.31-413.77 <font color=red>aaa</font> 所以就导致了这个用户想要去维权，09-04 14:18:46-09-04 14:18:48<font color=blue>Therefore, this user wanted to seek legal recourse.</font><br>156/205 414.63-416.13 <font color=red>n</font> 几乎是一个拉锯站。09-04 14:18:47-09-04 14:18:49<font color=blue>It's almost a stalemate.</font><br>157/205 416.57-416.81 <font color=red>jd</font> 对啊，09-04 14:18:48-09-04 14:18:48<font color=blue>Yes,</font><br>158/205 416.93-418.61 <font color=red>hp</font> 你想要去举证也很难，09-04 14:18:48-09-04 14:18:51<font color=blue>It's hard to prove,</font><br>159/205 418.91-419.81 <font color=red>aaa</font> 合同也是走过场。09-04 14:18:49-09-04 14:18:51<font color=blue>The contract is just a formality.</font><br>160/205 420.34-423.78 <font color=red>n</font> 最后就导致这个整个行业就是一个灰色地带，09-04 14:18:50-09-04 14:18:53<font color=blue>This ultimately leads to the entire industry being in a gray area.</font><br>161/205 424.17-425.07 <font color=red>jd</font> 大家都在打擦边球。09-04 14:18:51-09-04 14:18:52<font color=blue>Everyone is playing it safe.</font><br>162/205 425.39-425.42 <font color=red>n</font> 对，09-04 14:18:51-09-04 14:18:52<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>163/205 425.72-428.6 <font color=red>aaa</font> 那你觉得如果想要这个知识付费行业真正的走上正轨，09-04 14:18:52-09-04 14:18:55<font color=blue>What do you think about the real development of this knowledge-sharing industry?</font><br>164/205 429.07-431.079 <font color=red>hp</font> 咱们要怎么去系统性的重建这个规则？09-04 14:18:53-09-04 14:18:56<font color=blue>How should we systematically rebuild this rule?</font><br>165/205 431.38-433.18 <font color=red>jd</font> 首先就是得有一套专门的法规，09-04 14:18:54-09-04 14:18:56<font color=blue>First, there must be a set of specialized regulations.</font><br>166/205 433.63-434.8 <font color=red>n</font> 就是针对知识付费的。09-04 14:18:54-09-04 14:18:56<font color=blue>It's specifically for knowledge sharing.</font><br>167/205 435.08-439.88 <font color=red>n</font> 然后这个法规里面要把这些五花八门的乱象都给他写清楚，09-04 14:18:55-09-04 14:18:58<font color=blue>Then this regulation should clearly outline all these various and sundry problems.</font><br>168/205 440.33-440.81 <font color=red>aaa</font> 有罚则。09-04 14:18:56-09-04 14:18:57<font color=blue>There are penalties.</font><br>169/205 441.29-446.95 <font color=red>jd</font> 同时还要有一个统一的这个线上课程的这个备案和这个身份的核查，09-04 14:18:57-09-04 14:19:00<font color=blue>In addition, there needs to be a unified record and verification of the identity of the online course.</font><br>170/205 447.81-449.37 <font color=red>hp</font> 让大家都亮出来自己的底牌，09-04 14:18:58-09-04 14:19:00<font color=blue>Let everyone show their cards,</font><br>171/205 449.79-451.89 <font color=red>n</font> 感觉这样的话平台和讲师都会有压力了。09-04 14:18:59-09-04 14:19:02<font color=blue>I feel that this kind of talk will put pressure on both the platform and the lecturers.</font><br>172/205 452.07-452.55 <font color=red>aaa</font> 没错没错，09-04 14:18:59-09-04 14:19:01<font color=blue>That's right, that's right.</font><br>173/205 453.03-456.15 <font color=red>n</font> 然后平台也要承担起这个内容安全的第一责任，09-04 14:19:00-09-04 14:19:03<font color=blue>Then the platform must also take on this primary responsibility for content safety.</font><br>174/205 456.83-461.91 <font color=red>jd</font> 把这个算法保证把这个黑名单和这个抽查制度都严格的执行起来。09-04 14:19:01-09-04 14:19:03<font color=blue>Ensure that this algorithm strictly enforces the blacklist and the inspection system.</font><br>175/205 462.58-464.98 <font color=red>de</font> 再加上这个行业协会的这个带头自律，09-04 14:19:02-09-04 14:19:41<font color=blue>In addition to the self-regulation initiated by this industry association,</font><br>176/205 465.75-468.63 <font color=red>hp</font> 这个信用体系和这个第三方的监督一起上。09-04 14:19:03-09-04 14:19:07<font color=blue>This credit system and this third-party supervision are used together.</font><br>177/205 469.42-471.46 <font color=red>aaa</font> 再加上这个对消费者的这个保护，09-04 14:19:03-09-04 14:19:05<font color=blue>In addition to this protection for consumers,</font><br>178/205 472.15-474.73 <font color=red>n</font> 权益保护和这个维权的通道都给它完善了。09-04 14:19:04-09-04 14:19:07<font color=blue>The right protection and the channel for this lawsuit have been improved.</font><br>179/205 475.39-480.29 <font color=red>n</font> 真正的让这个知识付费回归到传递价值这个本位上来。09-04 14:19:05-09-04 14:19:08<font color=blue>To truly bring knowledge payment back to its original focus of delivering value.</font><br>180/205 480.68-483.02 <font color=red>jd</font> 你觉得未来这个知识付费行业会朝哪个方向发展？09-04 14:19:06-09-04 14:19:08<font color=blue>What direction do you think the knowledge payment industry will develop in the future?</font><br>181/205 483.31-484.99 <font color=red>bg</font> 我觉得随着监管越来越严格，09-04 14:19:06-09-04 14:19:45<font color=blue>I think that as the regulations become more and more strict,</font><br>182/205 485.6-486.5 <font color=red>aaa</font> 那些靠包装、09-04 14:19:07-09-04 14:19:08<font color=blue>Those relying on packaging,</font><br>183/205 486.98-489.8 <font color=red>hp</font> 靠炒作的课程会被慢慢的清退出场。09-04 14:19:08-09-04 14:19:12<font color=blue>Courses that rely on hype will eventually be weeded out.</font><br>184/205 490.27-491.95 <font color=red>n</font> 然后真正用心去做内容，09-04 14:19:09-09-04 14:19:10<font color=blue>Then, truly put your heart into creating content.</font><br>185/205 492.19-495.37 <font color=red>jd</font> 能够真正帮到用户的这种产品会越来越被看中。09-04 14:19:09-09-04 14:19:11<font color=blue>Products that can truly help users will be increasingly valued.</font><br>186/205 495.49-497.77 <font color=red>aaa</font> 所以大家会越来越重视这个课程到底有没有用。09-04 14:19:10-09-04 14:19:13<font color=blue>Therefore, people will pay more and more attention to whether this course is actually useful.</font><br>187/205 498.12-498.18 <font color=red>n</font> 对，09-04 14:19:11-09-04 14:19:11<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>188/205 498.3-498.84 <font color=red>n</font> 没错没错，09-04 14:19:12-09-04 14:19:13<font color=blue>That's right, that's right.</font><br>189/205 499.14-500.22 <font color=red>jd</font> 然后行业会更规范，09-04 14:19:12-09-04 14:19:14<font color=blue>Then the industry will become more regulated.</font><br>190/205 500.84-502.58 <font color=red>n</font> 大家的这个信任度也会提升，09-04 14:19:13-09-04 14:19:15<font color=blue>Everyone's trust level will also be improved.</font><br>191/205 503.08-505.6 <font color=red>hp</font> 会有更多的优质的内容和服务出现。09-04 14:19:14-09-04 14:19:17<font color=blue>There will be more high-quality content and services available.</font><br>192/205 506.39-509.39 <font color=red>aaa</font> 整个知识付费的这个生态也会变得更有活力，09-04 14:19:15-09-04 14:19:16<font color=blue>The entire knowledge-sharing ecosystem will become more vibrant.</font><br>193/205 509.85-510.42 <font color=red>n</font> 更可持续。09-04 14:19:15-09-04 14:19:16<font color=blue>More sustainable.</font><br>194/205 510.85-510.88 <font color=red>jd</font> 对，09-04 14:19:17-09-04 14:19:17<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>195/205 511.06-512.8 <font color=red>n</font> 今天我们聊了这个商业模式的问题，09-04 14:19:18-09-04 14:19:20<font color=blue>Today we discussed the issue of business model.</font><br>196/205 513.24-515.1 <font color=red>n</font> 然后聊了这个课程内容的问题，09-04 14:19:18-09-04 14:19:20<font color=blue>Then we discussed the content of this course.</font><br>197/205 515.52-517.08 <font color=red>aaa</font> 也聊了这个行业监管的问题。09-04 14:19:19-09-04 14:19:20<font color=blue>We also discussed the issue of industry regulation.</font><br>198/205 517.5-519.6 <font color=red>jd</font> 其实最重要的还是我们每个人要保持理性，09-04 14:19:20-09-04 14:19:22<font color=blue>Actually, the most important thing is that we all need to maintain our rationality.</font><br>199/205 520.03-520.06 <font color=red>hp</font> 对，09-04 14:19:20-09-04 14:19:22<font color=blue>Okay,</font><br>200/205 520.4-521.75 <font color=red>n</font> 不要被传言所左右，09-04 14:19:21-09-04 14:19:24<font color=blue>Don't be swayed by rumors.</font><br>201/205 521.87-524.21 <font color=red>aaa</font> 对一切都要以法律和事实为依据。09-04 14:19:22-09-04 14:19:24<font color=blue>Everything should be based on law and facts.</font><br>202/205 524.55-525.75 <font color=red>n</font> 今天的节目咱们就到这里了，09-04 14:19:22-09-04 14:19:26<font color=blue>Today's show is coming to an end,</font><br>203/205 525.93-527.07 <font color=red>hp</font> 然后感谢大家的收听，09-04 14:19:25-09-04 14:19:27<font color=blue>Then thank you for listening.</font><br>204/205 527.19-528.03 <font color=red>jd</font> 咱们下期再见，09-04 14:19:25-09-04 14:19:26<font color=blue>See you next time,</font><br>205/205 528.21-528.45 <font color=red>n</font> 拜拜。09-04 14:19:26-09-04 14:19:26<font color=blue>Bye.</font><br>